the story was literally PRIVATE, PERSONAL and as a simple hobby btw??? ML WASN'T "USED", if he was, MC should actually gain smth out of it, BUT HE LITERALLY DIDN'T
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Thank you for raising this. I was literally hurt (and crying) when Juheon still despises Dohu after all these years when he literally did not listen to Dohu AT ALL. That boy actually said he liked him, and Juheon's first instinct was despise him just because it was the first time. I knew that Dohu did not deserve all these. Motherly instincts always kicks in for Dohu because that's a child in the spectrum!
"I did not know my abnormal thinking would hinder me in any way" BABYYYY . If only Juheon used that time he ran to Dohu's arms when shit happened with his family to communicate; he would've known what has been going on inside Dohu's head. But all he did was run away. So selfish of him. And his scorned face really hurts. I'm so hurt for Dohu :((( That child was learning about himself all while studying Juheon. And Juheon has NO IDEA he helped Dohu recognize his feelings.
The BL novel that Dohu was writing was for commercial release, it wasn't a fanfiction, he had an editor in the first chapter telling him to come up with new characters.
Also the title of the webtoon is literally called "Don't Mix Business With Pleasure." It's referencing the concept of Dohu seducing Juheon just to then write down the sex they had together to sell. When Juheon looked at Dohu's computer near the end of season 1, that was meant to be him going "Hold on... This is... Me?"
Juheon believes that Dohu used him just to make money off of him, that's why Juheon is upset. He's still questioning "Did I mean ANYTHING to you? You have no understanding of human emotions. But I hate that I still like you even though you only went out with me to sell books." Like Dohu was Juheon's first love too so it's even more intense of a betrayal for Juheon, that's why Juheon is so angry and humiliated that the first guy he's ever learnt to trust... Didn't even date him because he liked him.
But in season 1 Dohu actually did care for Juheon and came to like him, but Juheon is still distrustful of Dohu. Season 2 will no doubt be about Dohu and Juheon clearing up misunderstandings and learning to trust again.
THIS. I LITERALLY WAS CRYING WRITING THE WHOLE THING BRO CUS WDYM THAT'S HOW YOU TREATED HIM AFTER HOW HE TREATED YOU???
still, knowing and understanding that someone you love is literally UNABLE to feel and understand human emotions and that had made them feel alienated for years and Juheon's first instinct was "YOU MONSTER WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND EMOTIONS USED ME" is fucking wild to me. esp coming from juheon who was born in a privileged position. Who likely had more resources compared to dohu.
and after the MONTHS dohu spent understanding Juheon and trying to be a better person for him Juheon couldn't spend 1 more day to let dohu speak and defend himself or even explain himself??? come on now bro.
>>literally UNABLE to feel and understand human emotions and that had made them feel alienated for years and Juheon's first instinct was "YOU MONSTER WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND EMOTIONS USED ME"
I mean wouldn't you be annoyed if your boyfriend sold sex stories about you and then was like "why are you so mad? I don't understand why you're upset."
>>coming from juheon who was born in a privileged position. Who likely had more resources compared to dohu.
It was shown in S1 that Juheon was neglected and used by his family, that's why it hurts so much that Dohu used him too! The cherry on top was that Juheon's family blackmailed him with his own relationship or they'd ruin his life. That was all meant to show that Juheon didn't have many privileges or resources, he was actually pretty lonely.
>>and after the MONTHS dohu spent understanding Juheon and trying to be a better person for him Juheon couldn't spend 1 more day to let dohu speak and defend himself or even explain himself??? come on now bro.
That's what S2 is gonna be about bro. See you next chapter!!
"sold sex stories abt you"
- HIGHLY DIFFERENT from what dohu was doing. you know what actually invasive sex stories entails : private information specifically about you that can be drawn clear lines from and actually can and will damage your reputation/image. What dohu was doing: a character INSPIRED by you, NOT A LITERAL COPY (literally A MUSE) This is so insane that nobody catch this literally normal behaviour for most artistic individuals to do when they HAVE A FAVOURITE PERSON.
Also had juheon been even a sliver of a better person, like what dohu has done with him time and time again, HE WOULD ACTUALLY HEAR THE GUY OUT instead of running the fuck away from everything and go no contact without proper closure.
"juheon was also abused and neglected by his family and was blackmailed"
-i genuinely forgot the blackmail was even a thing so ig that's one more reason to understand juheon, BUT.
riddle me this, what's a better position : neglected and abused with a constant supply of money to live comfortably and not having to think about rent and shit like that or alienated and abused with NOTHING RESEMBLING parental resources?
A privileged position is still a privileged position. Yes, regardless of the abuse or neglect or hardship a person went through with their provider of resources, The resources was still there on constant supply and because of who Juheon was born with, he automatically gained connections no one else in a different position that him was privy to. So yes, he IS STILL a privileged person. Issues with families? everyone go through a degree of that themselves, not everyone uses that as an excuse to run away from their problems.
"that's what S2 is about bro, see you next chapter"
-AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE MAD BRO. IT'S BEEN YEARS AND THIS SELFISH GUY STILL ACTS LIKE HE'S THE ULTIMATE VICTIM OF HIS OWN FUCKING ASSUMPTIONS AND ACTIONS. It's not "oh it'll be resolved in S2" NOO, we had enough of the same bs of dohu constantly putting down his life for this DOGSHIT of a partner, constantly chasing him around and giving him the world when Juheon CARES FUCKNONE abt dohu
No lie I just finished my job so I'm about to sleep but I thought I'd reply. If you skip a SINGLE word of this reply I will curse you forever. ANYWAY.
If me and you were friends IRL I would care about you like a sister so I have no ill will towards you. Having read these types of webtoons for years, I don't think this story is a representation of autism and is not trying to be either, because it would require more insight into autistic diagnoses.
The author is trying to write 2 virgin characters experiencing their first love, but in a chaotic way that keeps the reader hooked (and it's working). They're both as emotionally stunted as each other but one is rich and one is poor. In S2 they'll become lovey dovey and negate all the theories about autism, because that's how the romance genre is like. The emotional stunted-ness in these stories isn't because the authors are representing neuro-divergence, but because it sets up the best character growth across the story. If a character is already well adjusted that's like going from 80-100. If a character is emotionally stunted that's like starting from 0.
So Juheon is acting "selfish" and "like a victim" to you after all these years because he's written intentionally "starting at 0" by the author, so that the build up across the second season results in a good pay off (i.e. a make-up sex scene) and the fans get their money's worth. This comic is a commercial product with planned plot points, meticulously edited and re-drafted until it's fit for public release.
Korean webtoon sites have live leaderboards too, so the crazier the characters are, the more invested the fans are, the more they're going to buy it. A popular BL webtoon in Korea will get up to 50,000+ reads on a single chapter. That's a lot of money. Now multiply that by 73. That's 3.7Million reads.
That's why this story isn't about autistic characters falling in love and abusing each other, but rather "crazy characters having crazy drama and falling in love". For example I've seen many characters across different series get interpreted to be BPD or autistic, but their personalities are never consistent across the series which is why they are not good representations of BPD or autism. In fact, the ONLY character I can think of that is written with intentional BPD is Woo Hyung from the manhwa Ouroboros. If you haven't read it before, give it a go, you might like it.
I have BPD and autistic friends, my BPD friend has made attempts on her own life before by trying to jump off the roof at her old workplace, as well as self harming. My autistic friend has had full meltdowns in front of me and yelled and sworn at me and slammed doors because I put her vegetables back in the wrong place in her freezer. My autistic friend also self harms with food and almost made me sick multiple times (she keeps eating things she's allergic to, but I'm also allergic to the same thing but worse than her, so she basically almost food poisoned me multiple times :/).
Basically these yaoi characters are not representative of actual personality disorders. They are just "written starting at 0 so they have room for development" and "written crazy to keep people hooked". I would not look for deeper meanings, instead I would just enjoy the crazy drama.
ANYWAY GOODNIGHT. I have to work tomorrow again
love the insight but thing is I KNOW. MOST OF THE READERS KNOW. that not all authors are writing stories to resonate with readers and a lot of them are 100% doing engagement bait with the way they write their characters BUT IT DOESN'T NEGATE THE FACT THAT JUHEON IS FUKCING FRUSTRATING AS A CHARACTER. AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
no one is completely trusting that author is trying to talk from the perspective of autistic people but PEOPLE RESONATE WITH IT ANYWAYS BECAUSE IT'S A CLEAR SIGN AND SYMPTOM ; not being able to understand emotions, social cues and being alienated for it. (IM personally commenting because i understand the alienation aspect too well, and i was also a child of an abusive household so THIS STORY AND SETTING RESONATED WITH ME. regardless of the author's intention.)
THE THING THAT YOU SIMPLY DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE'RE NOT COMMENTING BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THE AUTHOR AND US READERS CAN COMMUNICATE AND EXPAND MORE ON THESE CHARACTERS.
we're doing it because it's fukcing FRUSTRATING to read.
We're on an illegal site talking shit abt the way an author handles their character BECAUSE there's a platform for it. Because we can openly express our frustrations on how much a selfish and "from 0" characters enraged us.
that's it
what dohu did: used juheon as a reference to start writing a story/script because he's an aspiring script writer, basically just thinking of juheon as a muse. ALL WHILST HELPING JUHEON BE MORE HONEST AND OVERCOME HIS TRAUMA OF HAVING NORMAL HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE. He literally convinced juheon on being more open and honest abt his comforts and discomforts.
what juheon did: bring stress and unnecessary pain into dohu's university life, constantly mentioning and villainising dohu's lack of emotions (WHICH DOHU LITERALLY ARE BORN WITH AND LITERALLY HAVE TRAUMA ABOUT) making dohu FEELS EVEN SHITTIER ABY HIMSELF.
WHEN I TELL YOU FUCK YOU JUHEON, I MEANT IT. BECAUSE I GENUINELY THINK DOHU IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AUTISM AND KOREA(and asian countries in general) IS SO BAD IN MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND CARE, HE'S UNDIAGNOSED.
Imagine thinking you're the only victim of a story when you constantly shit on other people's lives and things they cannot control.
Man fuck off. idc idc. YOU'RE AN ADULT, AND YOU THINK IN ALL PERPECTIVE YOU'RE THE PERPETUAL VICTIM??? GROW THE FUCK UP. never in a million years decent human would act like you did.
imagine being dohu, not being able to understand emotions and being numb to it, having your entire life UNDERSTANDING that you're never going to be understood and mesh with other people because of the way you're born, being alienated for it, and the ONLY PERSON, you decided to confide about it to USED IT AGAINST YOU??? i would kms