I have a question don't come at me

Adding to that, people often complain about how it's so common now to add rape into yaoi manhwas but who set that system up? Personally, I read manhwas for the plot not the smut. Whether the sex scene is consensual or non consensual, I don't bother to read it since I'm just here for the plot but I always keep in mind that "oh this dude forces the other dude to have sex" and I just see how the story goes along with that characteristic. But other ppl, they read the rape scenes, complain about them AND post about how this manhwa is filled with rape. Others will gain curiosity, they will open a website and read that same manhwa, but they think differently. In this case, they see jaekyung as an attractive man and often forget who he used to be (since he's slowly changing now). And that alone will make the popularity shift into something else. From "this manhwa is filled with rape" to "the artstyle makes the story worthwhile" and all that happens because WE read it. Can we change all this? No, we can't. Because Koreans have a different mindset than us, they'll do whatever to make money and THEY KNOW that EVEN if the manhwa was filled with rape, incest, pedophilia, some people are INTO that and they'll get popular no matter what.

So in conclusion, dear readers, rather than complaining about something you CANT change. Either drop it or read the manhwa for the plot without coming across the smut scenes.

Where are the days when the comments where supposed to be about the mangas manhwas or whater we read about.

I hear what you’re saying about reading for the plot, skipping the smut, and how certain manhwas gain popularity, but that is completely missing the point. I didn’t ask about marketing, reader habits, or why these stories become popular. I asked a very clear moral question: if people defend a rapist in fiction under the excuse of “it’s just fiction,” would they say the same about pedophiles who get off on drawings of children being sexually exploited?

All your points about art style, curiosity, popularity shifts, and cultural mindset do not answer the question. None of that changes the fact that defending sexual assault in fiction is morally problematic, and popularity or market logic does not make it any less harmful. You are talking around the issue instead of addressing the ethical logic behind defending abuse.

You’re wrong about one part though. When criticism is given to something, people, especially young readers ,develop critical thinking. They acknowledge the fact that what they’re reading is wrong. But when someone defends it and tries to stop that criticism with mindless excuses, they start to see it as normal. I don’t and will never read rape fetish slop like this, but I know there is a majority of readers who love it, and that’s why it becomes popular. But if you’re reading it, at least acknowledge the harmful part. Defending the rapist doesn’t make it okay, that’s fucked up. I still don’t understand why these rape fetish enjoyers try to silence criticism by calling it “whining” just because someone doesn’t like a rapist.

So yes, you went on a long tangent about the manhwa industry and how readers react, but you entirely dodged the one question I asked which changed the entire logic of "it’s just fiction, it doesn’t reflect my real life morals"

So sorry that i didn't make a comment that caters to you

You mean to anyone these days ?

Sorry for the confusion, my comment wasn't supposed to answer your question, I was just adding my own opinion into what you wrote, hence why i started the comment with "adding to that." But I can see you view the problem completely differently than I do, and thats very much understandable. But even irl, ppl often focus on someone's looks and brush off the bad actions because "they're so good looking, it'd be a shame for them to go to jail" (and yes that was said in a case). So if ppl say that to REAL LIFE CRIMINALS, what would u except them to say about fictional characters?

well at the end of the day it still is fiction and not real humans, so even if a pedophile gets off to fiction children he at least isn’t touching kids yk? or isn’t watching kids in the internet on some weird websites
so the fiction point still stands

the criticism is lowkey not needed cos why does someone think, oh yea imma put my negative opinion under that instead of talking about the manwha itself cos my opinion matters so much
back in the days when someone didn’t liked a manwha they scrolled and read something else, they didn’t put a whole essay about a manwha they hate in the comments.
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"Would you say the same thing about pedophiles who get off on drawings of little kids being sexually exploited?"

This is a paraphilia. Not everyone who reads yaoi/bl with controversial content does it because they WANT to see rape, abuse or any other sexual or criminal act. You can read a summary or not, start reading the story and dropping it if that is not to your liking. But with CP, those individuals CHOSE that especific material because it satisfy their 'sexual needs'.

Some would say the same with people who watch horror/gore movies or read about serial killers or enjoy listening to podcats about murders. Or even people who enjoy having sexual intercourse outside the norm like extreme bondage, 'rape play', gagging or suffocation play, etc. All those things are 'morally questionable'. Like why would someone enjoy to see a person being killed? Why would you want to hear what a criminal did to many people? Why the fascination? It's in the human nature to seek for what's different or be curious but most people know where to draw the line.

Those who 'properly defend' controversial content, without adding real facts, many times they'll do it from a place of ignorance, misinformation, indifference, immaturity or even to ragebait But no way liking to read this this type of content it's a sign of normalizing it or a termomether of their moral compass.

But I get your point and it's nice when people can critize something, recognize the good or bad, learn from it, have a conversation, educate each other without belittling someone and recognize and respect that not everyone enjoys something because it adds to their life, but because they can do it and nothing else.