Our trauma isn't our fault but it is our responsibility. Saying abuse is okay because the abuser was abused in the past is how we get generational cycles of abuse.
You're 10000% correct, abuse is a cycle, and it takes personal involvement to end it. I don't see Ian as not having done the work upon his return. In the past she died too quickly for us to see changes pass. He had the electric chair treatment, which truly sealed his fate. He had a mental illness and lost his identity at that point. When you reference abuse, I think you're referring to him basically holding her in captivity in their previous life which she had every right to escape from even if she held empathy for him, in such situations you should always pick yourself. in her second life i don't think he abused her (Correct me if i am wrong) what I am saying is i dont think he is deserving of this much stick, his choices and ideas were logical i dont think he is a bad guy fr
Op has amazing takes
You’re totally right ! I probably wouldve done the same thing as her, all we mean in the comments is that a little more angst/yearning wouldve been fun/satisfying to read bahahaha. But the way things are going rn is pretty realistic
I agree! People refuse to see the underlying reason or conflicts of these characters and I think they’re both complex in a way that some people can’t understand. This manwha is also a representation of the reality of war and the a trauma that one gets from it. I understand the take that sure the reconciliation was a little rushed. But I don’t think people should downplay Ian so much like this and her as well, after everything they’ve been through.
I don't personally dislike Ian really, especially as a character. I think he works well for a more mature romance about redemption or second chances. I think most people's issues, and mine, is that the reconciliation was not written well. It's just very suddenly plopped down on our laps and they did not have a proper talk, or at least one where we as an audience could understand them both (to give them the benefit of the doubt we just kind of guess their hangups and such but we aren't properly shown really).
I'm not. You're acting like he did nothing wrong when he still has a pathological victim complex in this life, including shunning/punishing Madelyn for not accepting his help and then acting as if him literally ignoring her in prison was her fault. He has no ability to look inward and instead lashes out and projects on others. His refusal to apologize or admit fault means that he places that emotional burden on others -- Madelyn. He is a damaged person but we should not excuse his emotionally abusive and toxic tendencies
By that same argument, you're "refusing" to acknowledge that people who have undergone trauma can also perpetuate abuse and hold them responsible for their own toxic tendencies. You don't have to try and downplay people's understanding of a story to make your point.
hmm I see what you mean, the comments i saw were basically saying why would you get back with him and saying its unfathomable and thats what was bothering me. TBF can we say they have fully reconciled? Yes, they announced they still have feelings for one another, and as a reader we saw them both being filled with yearning unable to forget each other, but they still aren't in a relationship. i think the last chapter was more of a getting on the same page, and starting from zero. Hopefully, the upcoming chapters give us what we're looking for in more unified dialogue instead of individual thoughts and yearning.
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idk i think everyone is being a bit too harsh... yes Ian wasn't great but you need to understand these were not the thoughts of a mentally stable man, both in the past and the present. Love is a double-edged sword. The society they are living in is harsh on those with disfigurements, even more so than it is now. She has rejected him more than once. when he proposed as a 'healthy' bodied man, she said no. When he came back with injuries the now nurse proposed herself, and he'd heard the words of her father describing him as basically a meal ticket. he was suffering from PTSD, coming off a warfield where scepticism could save your life, he had every right to be apprehensive. Fmore she rejected his efforts at keeping her out of prison, choosing not to stay by his side but go to jail. Things were bad enough that a brokie noble in name was going to be with someone of such high standing, but now an ex-convicted?? It was truly the severing of their relationship. I understand her choices were rooted in her inner values, but i don't see him as being unworthy of reconciliation...