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JETT November 2, 2025 12:14 pm

Has anyone heard of a redemption arc or…? I believe they just gave up after not finding the child for so long and having no hints to her wherabouts. They were not only being manipulated by believing the child was a dead son, but the consort was also utilizing magic. Obv if time regresses they wouldnt feel the same. The story hasnt regressed to that point. Not all fantasy stories are linear and i believe it adds better plot?? Its interesting.

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    mako November 2, 2025 11:07 pm

    So the magic exclusive to the royal family also makes them instinctively love each other, so when the redhead princess stole her magic, she also took her chance to be instinctively loved AND was making them love her instead. That kind of explains how they adored her in the novel timeline even though she's not a good person vs not even liking her now.
    Still, she (MC) noticed the father/king must have known she was the real daughter in the original timeline, yet was still rejected. Even if her magic was completely drained, he could tell it was hers. I don't see how can one redeem from that, even if I feel sorry for him rn.

    Wapaang November 4, 2025 10:34 am
    So the magic exclusive to the royal family also makes them instinctively love each other, so when the redhead princess stole her magic, she also took her chance to be instinctively loved AND was making them lov... mako

    Only reason I call it a “redemption arc” is because he didn’t do any of that this go round. He hasn’t even had the time to. I’d get treating someone like that whos already done that, but this is a completely new life from the other. She’s also recognized that it is and that the course of the story is changing. In this timeline, there’s really nothing to redeem from. This is probably what would happen had the consorts daughter not stolen her magic, and the consort manipulating them in the first place.

    medchan November 10, 2025 10:11 am
    Only reason I call it a “redemption arc” is because he didn’t do any of that this go round. He hasn’t even had the time to. I’d get treating someone like that whos already done that, but this is a com... Wapaang

    Based on what she was thinking in one of the recent chapters, she isn't able to separate the past from the present. She states to herself that she knows they are two different people but her father of the past and present are the same person to her.

    It's easy to be logical that they're two different people but she has the "lived" experience of what he did to her. She states about half way through that she is pretty sure she regressed, which is why her memories are so vivid of certain things. It's why she can find the room that she "used to live in" while she was in the servant (west) wing of the palace. She even thinks to herself that her past self must not have even been human to them. Added to the fact, her mentality regresses the longer she's in front of the imperial family, the harder time she has to be logical about it. She herself notices that she struggles to be mature, especially in front of the king. They could all be chalked up as throw away lines, small scenes, but it's all there, in the story.

    And honestly, forgiveness isn't guaranteed. I think a lot of people forget that. Ab*se doesn't magically go away. She's trying to let go of the feelings of resentment but even if she does, she isn't REQUIRED to forgive them. A person doesn't have to forgive to move on. If she chooses indifference in the future, that's okay too. It would be a refreshing change. I'm very, very tired of it being shrugged off as "in the past" just because it's not remembered. She is allowed to acknowledge that she suffered, even if they don't remember that they caused it.

    But most likely, everything will be hand waved once again as "it's ok, you didn't do anything wrong this time, so let's forgive you" even though everything he's done so far has either pushed her into a corner or actively hurt her. No, his actions aren't as bad as the previous life but that doesn't mean what he's done in this life is any better. He's pushed his feelings of guilt and wanting a happy family onto her from the very beginning, despite her clearly stating she was happy with her current family. He has endangered her multiple times, both unknowingly and knowingly. Before she was even called to the palace, the archduke even stated that she was hurt repeatedly in the orphanage and he was shaken up for a moment before brushing it off. Did he look into it? Did he do anything about it? I wouldn't know because it's never mentioned. At least the archduke did something about it. The archduke isn't perfect either but he makes an effort to be a father. He doesn't just claim to love her. He scolds her when she's doing wrong. He worries about her endangering herself. He explains some of those worries to her. He purposely got the new teacher because he was worried about how she viewed love as an exchange. The king has struggled to see beyond the fact that she's his biological daughter. Personally, I don't think the king's even earned his redemption arc, considering he's only barely now just realizing how deeply he hurt her. He'll get there eventually but we aren't at that point in the story.

    Wapaang November 30, 2025 12:09 pm
    Based on what she was thinking in one of the recent chapters, she isn't able to separate the past from the present. She states to herself that she knows they are two different people but her father of the past ... medchan

    Its not even that he has something to realize, he doesn't even know he's done something wrong except for the childish obsession and the longing every parent has for their children whether it be hurtful or not. No one does. For all they know the way she acts is an experience to her and her alone. Im not asking her to forgive neglect, she shouldn’t. But at some point in the story she should realize they’re not the same people.

    Personalities and situations aren't linear between the same person. Regressing means new opportunities for change, character development and sometimes entirely new scenarios like the archduke. Regressing means they’ve not been manipulated as before, regressing means they still love her and have hope of becoming actual family. She knows this, thats why she actively feels guilty for brushing off her family which at this point all we know is they want her to stay, as any biological family would with some exceptions.

    Its not that he didn’t want to be her father, we see that he wants to and is still actively trying to make an effort. Perhaps in a different and more immature way, but an effort nonetheless. Which is still a change, and is to be acknowledged. Say he had also regressed and then tried to right his wrongs, then it would be entirely his fault. But we haven't seen that yet(from what i’ve read, correct me if im wrong i saw this just as i was planning to read more). So yes, i get where shes coming from. If i regressed i wouldn't entirely forgive my abusers either. Had they been manipulated into doing so and in cutting that off the source they would’ve been normal, is a different story.

    Im not saying she should be okay with that right away, and not that she even has to ‘forgive’ them. Just that when shes older try to see where they’re coming from as people who have zero ideo of what went on in her previous life and have been hurt as a result.

    Take for example some looters.. plunder your village..?? In a past life. You remember the plundering of thyne village, but to the looters, they have no idea who you are and have broken free from the governing body that made them loot. They do not come to loot your village, but come by to share techniques and ask to trade. However you know they were manipulated in a past life to destroy your village and have broken free from those chains yet you still resent them and do the same; plunder their village. Yet, to them, all they know is you live in that village.

    A rather extreme analogy, but it gets my point of view across. (AN - im treating her as an adult because shes regressed and as of now still has the mind and thinking process of an adult. Should that change im okay with treating her as a child. I often find that weird in regression comics that contain childhood romance too, lol.)

    marzzz December 7, 2025 10:21 am
    Based on what she was thinking in one of the recent chapters, she isn't able to separate the past from the present. She states to herself that she knows they are two different people but her father of the past ... medchan

    this is such a valid take on the situation. in the end it's not about whether they're wrong or right. it's about whether or not she is healed enough to receive their love and at this point she's still not. maybe in time she will be able to move on but she's still rightfully traumatized so even if the imperial family are victims too it doesn't change anything. you can't force her to erase the traumatic memories of the people wearing the faces of the ones who've hurt her. it doesn't matter their current intentions. i hadn't really thought of it in that perspective for some reason. like sort of i had but i kept thinking well she'll get there eventually but you're right irl she probably wouldn't. the nervous system does what it wants. thanks for this!