Bunch of dohu glazers in this com sec like he is not the one in the wrong in the first pla...

He dohus no wrong in my eyes

Nah, I understand where Juheon was coming from, but like - rereading chap 59 and 60, it's like Juheon pretended that entire section never existed, the way he handled that highschool bully (yet ended up acting the same into he way he belittled his emotions/perspective), the way Dohu did confirm that his emotions don't work like other people, that he's slow to process, but still proceeds to say Juheon was the only one for him at the end of chap 60, like - did he think Dohu lied about everything??? Talk about being in your own head that you trampled someone's feeling like that. The only thing Dohu did wrong was keeping the document despite not intending to use it to actually publish, and not actively speaking up/defending (but you can argue that he doesn't actually know how as it's his first relationship and first everything and he already doesn't process things the same so it'll inevitably come off differently). I do like Juheon, but in this regards I think he was more in the wrong in comparison to Dohu.

I mean yeah he did think Dohu lied about everything? He wasn’t honest from the beginning, juheon was the one who always sought after Dohu, juheon is the one who initiated the I like you’s, like obviously he’s gonna doubt him. Dohu is a grown man who recognized what he did was bad but didn’t tell him, he doesn’t need to be babied.

You seem to give Dohu a lot of grace, but juheon is the one with trauma. Being used by his family, talked down on, etc. learning that your partner who you trusted and loved did the same thing as your messed up family is traumatizing and he had every right to leave and say his peace.

And even now juheon has every right to deny dohus feelings. If juheon was the uke and Dohu was the seme and was stalking him, getting kicked out of buildings, and saying “in order for me to leave you have to go on 5 dates with me”, the hate would be insane.

? You're quite the Juheon glazer yourself I see, I doubt you even understand perspectives outside your own, especially different ways of thinking of you thought what I said I was "babying" dohu. I shouldn't even waste typing this since I know you won't care regardless, but here I am baffled. Good luck with whatever you're dealing with man.

“Don’t understand perspectives outside of my own” based on what? Literally just insulted me for no reason just cause I understand juheons perspective lmao.

I get Juheon's issue but he gravitated to that single point and refused to see everything else about Dohu. He ended up assuming the same albeit slightly similar (lying and using) but completely different scale from what his family does.

And it seems like there is an assumption that Dohu is completely normal, rather he does not have any difficulties even when it's obvious to us readers.

This is just my personal opinion, but it’s clear that Juheon is struggling mentally and he’s dealing with deep trauma from his family. When he found out that Dohu did something similar (even if to a lesser extent), he chose to walk away, which is completely understandable. Dohu apologized sincerely and poured his heart out in the end, and while I think he did everything right, it still wasn’t enough and that’s okay. Juheon doesn’t owe him forgiveness.

I also agree that Dohu clearly has his own struggles, but that doesn’t excuse what he did at the start and that’s really the core issue here. Juheon got upset because Dohu hid the truth, but honestly, not wanting to tell someone something out of fear of their reaction is a very human and relatable feeling. Dohu recognized what he did was wrong, and is now seeking out Juheon. My biggest issue is just the amount of people who disregard juheons trauma and decision to cut it off with Dohu, and want to see Juheon “suffer” by bringing in a second male lead and getting him jealous. As if we haven’t seen him suffer enough. Like Dohu is working hard to bring this man back and people want a second male lead?? Even tho Dohu has only ever felt feelings for juheon??

Which is fine. He was clear abt his issues in the very first place. He made dohu aware of it. Yall can give grace to dohu but dissing juheon for having traumas yall can’t be fr

I mean who isn't struggling? No one is excusing Dohu but admittedly he is struggling to be normal - to just normally apologize, normally communicate and socialize. But it's obvious he makes the effort - before they met, while they were together, and even after the break up.

Trauma doesn't excuse people to not try do the right thing or be better. So even Juheon has the biggest trauma in the entire world, is it right to ask someone to quit their job? I agree that Juheon does not owe anyone his forgiveness but I draw the line with him making Dohu quit his job. Dohu has not done anything drastic really. Sure he camped out at Juheon's company but that's pretty much it. During this movie project, Dohu only ever did the pretending to spill the coffee thing but that was it. He was just working as instructed. Juheon also has the responsibility to come to terms with his issue instead of forcing someone else to quit their job. If he thinks Dohu is manipulating things, then he should ask around first, instead of blaming and assuming. He does not know how important the job might be for Dohu.

Oh please. Stop assuming. The trauma is recognized. But I don't see the effort to trying to fix it. Dohu on the other hand, has always been trying to fix whatever is wrong with him.

Juheon doesn't have to forgive Dohu but not make him quit his job because he can't stand him. He has to deal with his issues some other way instead of forcing someone to quit.

right!!! juheon can be mad at dohu for as long as he wants, but asking him to quit his job is just pure evil and unjustifiable. “dohu used him” is not even a valid excuse to do that lol. they both have issues to fix, it’s just that the way juheon handles his makes him appear childish and unprofessional.

To be fair (just speculation) I think Juheon’s acting that way because his family already knows he and Dohu used to date. Now that they’ve seen the two of them in the same building again, they probably assume they’re back together and are threatening him. That’s just my speculation, but I really think that’s where the story is going. And yeah, he definitely seems mentally unwell right now, most likely because of his family, who I suspect might’ve been the ones to break into his home, leaving him constantly on edge since they’re political (if I’m remembering correctly) and they’re son being gay would be controversial.

Also, calling it “pure evil” and “unjustifiable” is insane. Dohu literally said he got kicked out of buildings trying to reach Juheon. If Juheon knows about that, of course he’d feel uncomfortable. I love Dohu, but he’s also been dragged to police stations multiple times; if the roles were reversed, people would absolutely be calling that behavior “pure evil” and “unjustifiable.”

Dohu said go on 5 dates with me then I’ll quit, you think this man gaf about his job that man is clearly on a mission.

WE KNOW Dohu doesn't give a fuck. But Juheon doesn't know that. If anything Dohu is just sounding desperate to air everything out to Juheon - say everything he couldn't before. And honestly, Dohu was hired and trusted because he's got talent. I believe the director has been pushing him so he would be inspired to write. Dohu's current activities are a bit of a step up from what he normally does. If he quits, it might get pull down some of his opportunities.

Juheon needs to be clear about his reasons instead of forcing someone to quit. It would sound valid if it was indeed due to such threats, even if it's still a speculation at the moment.

Seems the "stalking" is a recurring topic for Dohu. Given that we were told about it from Dohu's perspective/narration, I don't think it's that scary/drastic. The fact that he kept being released, just told off or that the label didn't bother to press any charges, means it's probably something simple. He wasn't doing anything radical like sasaengs or delulu fans.

Juheon definitely needs to tell juheon what’s going on, not cause they used to date, but because it directly involves Dohu. If I’m remembering correctly, the aunt sent a photo of Dohu to juheon, this automatically makes him involved and he deserves to know he’s at risk.

Yeah okay, agree to disagree on the topic of stalking cause it’s just not okay in general in my opinion. And honestly, 10x worse than asking someone to quit their job (ofc in my opinion).

That picture was before season 2 was it not? Plus if it was his aunt/family, why would the perpetrator immediately arrested. They would be unprofessional (if paid) to be caught that easily.

I mean, an actual stalker could have done and is capable of far more worse things, esp sasaengs. I heard so many stories that are really insane, that's why I am downplaying Dohu's. Maybe that's what the police or the label thought as well. Just maybe.

The picture was taken before season 2, but he should still tell him because who knows what could happen (he should have told him back then, even tho they broke up) His family is crazy and I just think Dohu shouldn’t be left in the dark when he’s at risk.


Yeah I forgot they said the stalker was arrested, I just feel like it’s weird idk…like why did the stalker leave? Clearly he wanted to make his presence known by making a mess, but if a stalker is brazen enough to enter a home, I think they’re brazen enough to stay and try to meet the person they’re stalking. It also looked like they were searching for something in the closeups…


It’s all just sus to me…or maybe I’m overanalyzing. It’s just such a weird plot to put in, especially since it ended up going nowhere. Like I was expecting Dohu to get Juheon to stay with him cause he’s in fear of the stalker.

It's okay to analyze. It's part of the fun reading and discussing with people who do the same.

On my end, I'm not convinced yet that it's Juheon's family who did it. After all, they just want him for his "blood" but being a celebrity makes it hard for them to lock him in. I find the aunt's threat last season to be empty (until proven otherwise). But it is possible that making Dohu quit was to keep Dohu safe, because Juheon thinks they did it. You got me in that perspective, thanks. Though I missed that the intruder was finding something.

I honestly thought this plot was added so Juheon would ridiculously blame Dohu for it. Sorry that I thought the worst of Juheon lol.