Me and u the only 2 ppl with sense here !!
I was literally the same thing so yeah LOUDER
It's so funny because people keep saying he's so real for this and they would've aborted their rapist's child or that he never had to actually take the child to term or return to it, but none of them considered that also maybeeee, given the history we know of Hyesung's parents, Hyesung himself could've been a rape child too. His mother could've been forced to deliver him because his father hoped he'd be an alpha, and she hoped too for the sake of the abuse to stop, but he was an omega and then the abuse got worse. Would they then give his mother the same leniency and understanding they're giving Hyesung, saying it's okay and she never had to deal with her rapist's child?
The cycle continues and I find the comments lashing out harshly absurd. We should own each of them to their mistakes without labelling someone good and the other evil. Humans are much more complex, and no one is free of fault. In fact, we go through life and situations where we ALL are at fault in it causing it to reach certain conclusions, but that's life.
Exactly this dojin hate is really forced...there are worse character out there who get away but suddenly a dojin hate Fandom started lol...he could be hated for being manipulative etc but straight up telling rape is too much...after all hyesung himself went to his house and stayed...People act like he is a kid bruh...he was 20!...not 15yrs kid...People will do anything to make the tops always bad even when both are equally at fault
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Are you stupid? Hyesung literally left so many times, when he's about to live with his friend, Dojin literally goes caca and assault him. Be so fucking fr. Dojin hate is justify, he literally baby trap hyesung and assaulted him many times y'all just defending this pos just because he's attractive lmfao.
Exactly!!...my point finally... baby trapped thats the correct term manipulative toxic shit controlling...yes all that he is ?dojin is? Yes and he should be hate for all that not for raping...like i said rape is a strong word it comes with lot of things ...u cant tell someone rapist just like that...if u actually ever come across something like that u will understand what i meant
He didn't baby trap him exactly tho as well. He didn't "rape" him and he didn't impregnate him intentionally. The sex after Hyesung was leaving for his friend is what I can drag Dojin for, because yea that was coercion, but he kept apologizing and trying to make up for it. Yes begged Hyesung to keep the baby, but also told him he understands that it's ultimately his choice, he just hopes he takes the baby to term and he'll help him and being him anything he wants. Hyesung asked "and after it's born? Then what?" And Dojin said "I will be the one to take care of it! You don't have to do anything at all" and while it is a big manipulative (without any ill intent tho) he was still true to his word cause
1) Hyesung was immature and shallow enough to be lured in by money and finally no debt to pay this alpha who is like a dog doing tricks for me so he agreed to keep the baby
2) When Hyesung left, Dojin didn't being him back by force or act like how y'all words about him will make anyone who didn't read think he acted like, and he did take care of Byul on his own and never blamed Hyesung.
Also, lets just establish that Hyesung left Byul not because he was a "rape child" but because:
1) he realized how big of a responsibility it is the moment he gave birth, and that the shallow bits of money and hormones that made him cling to Dojin are now gone and he has to face parenthood and he didn't feel ready
2) it brought PTSD of his childhood and his mother abandoning him and his father abusing him, and the fact he also has to face the future of figuring put his child's secondary gender and that he could be an omega, which brings us to
3) he still had so much internalized prejudice to omegas and being an omega and he hated himself for being one, and giving birth to Byul was the final nail on the coffin and the biggest neon sign that he is, in fact, an omega, and that he can no longer deny it
The Hyesung mia bits are actually so much more complex and a HIM problem mostly than people keep making it out to be just to hate on Dojin and pinning bigger blames on him that what he deserves. In the end, Hyesung went back for Byul AND DOJIN willingly, and never out of obligation or coercion or manipulation. And he stayed for them. And we see him now happily married and with another child, which is meant to show how much he came to accept himself as an omega too. That's the whole point of his journey, but people keep pinning "rape" to the story that it's dumbing it down a lot.
To re-establish tho, cause maybe the first bit of my reply was misleading.
I don't believe the pregnancy sex was rape, it was dubious consent as worst, from BOTH sides. I don't think Hyesung was baby trapped. Like how he threw tantrums to try and leave to his friend, and how he managed to leave Byul after birth, he could've aborted the child. He agreed to keep the child to have luxury, money, no debt, a nice place to stay, and a doting alpha at his beck and call. That's why he was shallow, insincere to Dojin most of the time which was a bit unfair to Dojin who legitimately cared, and had him not think seriously of the consequences.
There are other times that Dojin was an asshole in, and I don't believe him free of fault at all, I just find the demonizing of him and pinning more blame than what actually is rightfully his ridiculous.
Oh wake it up !!
I'll get so many dislikes for this but I've seen so much "rape" and "rapist's child" and "he was raped!!" Going around that I had to go reread the og manhwa just to make sure I remember correctly and yes, as I've remembered, it wasn't... Uhm.. exactly as brutal as people make it.
Was Hyesung out of his mind? Yes, he was on his heat. Should Dojin have fought him harder and rejected him with more resolve? Yes. However, it's not like Dojin pinned him down against his will. I know consent at this time was very dubious, near lacking, due to the pheromones, but come on. Dojin wasn't actually taking advantage of him with malicious intent. He tried stopping him (not the first time to try stopping him when he's in heat) and even when he caved in he immediately wore a condom to prevent causing him harm, they were just unlucky. Even the reactions between them afterwards wasn't that of a rape incident. Hyesung was throwing a tantrum as usual but mostly out of embarrassment that he jumped Dojin in the middle of the night.
I'm also gonna say this even tho I'll be called slurs but this is a fantasy setting, guys, the pheromones and heat cycles and shit probably affect them more than we can fathom because we base attraction, desire, and the willpower to push off someone coming on to us on human references and feelings and experiences. I'm not saying Hyesung's strong heat pheromones are an excuse for Dojin to lose control of his resolve to push him away and instead take advantage of him, but I'm saying it played a factor. I'll never understand people making Dojin out to be a demon here when he's just made mistakes that he himself admitted and atoned for like any normal person. It's not like being jumped constantly when you're trying to sleep and having your dick sucked when you didn't ask for it isn't harassment too. What are you gonna say guys? Ooooh Hyesung was in heat he couldn't help it? Oh Hyesung was out of it he couldn't hear his protests? OH DOJIN LOWKEY WANTED IT THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T PUSH HIM OFF WITH ENOUGH FORCE?
you know how that will sound?
So just say the pregnancy was a mistake none of them wanted due to a night both had when they were not thinking straight, acknowledge Dojin never actually intended to take advantage of him or rape him and was also subjected to his advanced, pheromones, and begging for a child and sex, and move on. We have other shit to actually hold them all accountable for and you're holding on to the one incident and making it seem like Dojin was a demon. The word "Rape" is used so lightly these days.