“ People can say Dojin is controlling dominanting, manipulative but Never a rapist??...if hyesung can be excused for being under influence of pheromone so can be dojin...now being under influence that is a mistake but telling rapist so easily it like people think rape is very usable term???”
This was your comment btw. Want me to debunk it again? Hyesung was manipulated you said it yourself. Coerced does NOT equate to consent. Hyesung being in heat equated to being drunk. Can drunk people consent? No! Dojin on the otherhand willingly spread out his pheromones when hyesung attempted to leave. To what? TO INDUCE HIS HEAT. And I am speaking from a nurse perspective, a 19/20 year old is still young to have kids. Their frontal lobe isn’t even fully developed at that time yet. So sorry! Sorry for empathizing with a young adult who wasn’t given any choice but to give birth to his rapist’s child. Sorry too for empathizing with a traumatized person who does not want to forgive their parents’ abuse.
This will be my last reply because from what I observed? Yeah there is no use talking sense into you. I hope you get well soon
You can carry on ...cause that entire narrative that byul was born cause of rape is wrong...did hyesung nxt mrning react like he was raped he acted embarrassed, irritated, perplexed...did he say dojin forced himself on him nxt mrning no ri8?....then how can you say it is RAPE ...it was dubcon...max to max ....and if u think i am defending dojin ur ded wrong dojin is a shit character idc he can go to hell....what i am defending is incorrect use of term RAPE...it is the final form of SA where a person is totally violated irrespective of his choice ...it was an acceptance from both people even if under influence...if u see my first msg i asked how can people use term RAPE so easily for everything that is the last stage...which infact u can say dojin did after hyesung was trying to leave the house... i am specifically talking about the night byul was conceived that was not rape...after 2 dojin tried to force hyesung where hyesung actually defended himself ...so i said byul is not a rape product which lot of people were commenting....read the full msg not first 2lines to fit narratives...and yes if ur also in medical field i am appalled that this is ur verdict...me being psychiatrist this is something we deal and help our patients every day. So good to know people like u who support anti rape working in this field but what you are doing is forcing you're view point u should always ask the victim if he/she feels assaulted that is the entire point .. did hyesung felt assaulted that should be the perspective cause he is an individual...please keep in mind i am talking only about the time byul was conceived
And comming to "young people" i told that cause u said people are disliking my comment more so that is proof i am wrong ...so i said young people validates themselves based on likes and dislikes nowadays and it wont affect my viewpoint....obviously it is not related to the argument....i really hope u get the actual point of my entire comment not just 1st one line....i am not defending dojin as a rapist...i am questioning peoples viewpoint on accusing someone as rapist so easily....both the things are different
This being an open platform where people can actually discuss their viewpoint...i can accept that dojin was "Never a rapist" is something to be changed to "was not a rapist when byul was conceived" should be corrected cause i also typed hurriedly so it may sound wrong....but that msg has lot of other points which i tried to summarize....so people comming back at my comment with offensive msg only just one word RAPE is not correct...so i am defending my viewpoint....not one time i am defending dojin nor hyesung because both are at fault for different reasons
...but people balantly defending hyesung is also something i am questioning and i willl....the only one u can say i am actually defending is byul cause he is an actual child and his actions shouldn't be accounted which people are doing and blaming him....but atleast i know you as person is actually good and trying to prove and have patience to discuss...just the way i am trying to with you....
Lookslike i didn't see new msg.. thought it was same previous msg lol ...so let me tell u again being drunk and under pheromone induced/ influence is two different scenario...and ofcourse if a person is drunk u say whatever they do is not at all the fault they cant be accounted...that is very weird perspective....hmmm...ofcourse becoming drunk itself is a fault so if we go in that direction it will be difficult for u to counter so...lets seperate out the scenario pheromone induce yeah he is under influence but that alone cannot only be considered ...he still had some amt of judgment left right ...so we should take entire scenario in account the aftermath and all the nxt moment previous all should be considered....had dojin enter that room and not hyesung i would've straight up agreed yup dojin raped hyesung...but that was not the case simple....and even if ur frontal lobe is not created ...doesn't bare him or excuse him for his inability to judge...if a16yr old rape someone of 20yrs in law they are held accountable and punished will u say his frontal lo e didn't develop so please dont account him ofcourse u need question it....here u can sympathize with hyesung for being manipulated....but u balantly cant ignore or defend his urge to use his own unborn child as a liability which he did is wrong...ur defending hyesung like that is also worng...so both have fare share of faults....so yes i dont like how people keep on defending hyesung ....and again neither am i defending dojin ....and i am questioning the viewpoint on dojin....please understand that
And idk why ur sorry if hyesung dont want to forgive his parents i nvr said i support dojin/byul for contacting that old woman ofcourse he shouldn't forgive ...but "if"...hyesung was product of rape and it is mentioned she conceived him even younger so what will be ur viewpoint then are u not defending him on the entire pont that is young adult...then in her case she was minor right....that is even worse....but people are holding her accountable right for her actions?.....so i am also holding hyesung accountable for being greedy trying to use his unborn child....but does that mean i defend dojin ...NO..NEVER...infact dojin/his elder sister is the worst character in the entire love is an illusion world!!! ...i nvr liked them and nvr will but that doesn't mean i will accuse them with wrong things in wrong scenarios...no i wont ...i always try to view from neutral side nor victim side nor assailant side....u might think....that i am lecturing u cause i am old and stupid....but trust me i am just trying to have a conversation....since ur comment was the only one who actually had a viewpoint and counter(⌒▽⌒)
Lol i was replying to other comments but after seeing the same shit i had to make my own comment....
Like did we read the same story?? How come everything is dojin's fault and hyesung is innocent??? People saying dojin raped hyesung???....People be throwing anywords nowadays...it was manipulative, under influence but not one time hyesung said no to dojin infact according to story byul was conceived the ni8 hyesung invited himself to the room which the beta was guiding...so how was it raped???...if hyesung can be under pheromone why cant dojin be?? He tried to later get condom but failed both gets affected by pheromone....why is he being portrayed like rapist???
And people saying hyesung is a child????...when he was 19/20 not really a child people may have kids by choice that time...was he groomed by dojin at 16yrs no???....they met as fucking adults...wht the hell is child trope coming from??...he was fucking brat who couldn't cope with his new gender went to dojin knowing he is alpha...but if he himself had strong resolution he could've rejected dojin....But does that mean dojin is innocent?? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! but is he only at fault??NO! Hyesung had his share of mistake as well...
People can say Dojin is controlling dominanting, manipulative but Never a rapist??...if hyesung can be excused for being under influence of pheromone so can be dojin...now being under influence that is a mistake but telling rapist so easily it like people think rape is very usable term???
And finally people telling byul need beating or punishment.. dont u fucking dare he is the actual SO CALLED KID!!...who from his birth was considered accident and later redeemable...if anyone is the most sensible one its byul....why people expect him to not talk his grandma when nobody gave him any explanation before...can you imagine how devastating it night be form him to learn that his mother abandoned him the moment he was born???...even if it was 2months or 1week??
He is the most suffering person here...both parents acted on their own interest and then came back on their own bonded issue etc...for one second he shouldn't be blamed...if he could forgive his parents then he accepting his grandma even after he hears the story is valid
Its hyesung problem ...with his parent he need to own up and resolve ...all he has done is block out whatever he seems inconvenient...high time he owns up his mistake as well...as well as dojin for supporting his motherinlaw and not his wife