SAME HERE
She is a pervert and also I feel like she's better off doing it with logan.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way, I thought that my comment would be downvoted alot by pania supporters but I still wanted to post it coz I feel it's ridiculous that naos gets hated on for enforcing his boundaries while pania repeatedly crosses his boundaries all while pretending that she's doing it for his sake.. If he was a woman ,he would have been praised for standing his ground and everyone would have thought that pania is sleazy and pushy.
Honestly i see lot of 'yearning 2nd ml' potential in logan. Unfortunately the author will most likely just make him and pania hang out alot so naos gets jealous and realises his feelings,then make naos apologize to pania eventhough all he did was uphold his boundaries.
Thanks for bringing up this perspective! Never thought about this in his pov and now I feel kinda sad for him!
But I don't know if I think she's exacly taking advantage of him - not in every situation, at least... I mean, she's even lost her virginity and keeps constantly puting herself in extremely vulnerable situations to help him too...
Idk, I'm not a Pania's supporter or anything, just trying to put myself in her shoes here... I think the author's trying to state that she probably likes this situations better than him bcuz it's her crush after all, but his reluctance makes me feel like If I was him that would be my nightmare
Yeah I do acknowledge that pania is not taking undue advantage of naos and that the author probably doesnt realise that the situation is quite icky from naos pov. Its just sometimes feels like she often disregards his discomfort coz she's too excited at the prospect of touching him. That's what made me realise how unfair this situation is for naos. Honestly if the genders were reversed,this would be a typical male gaze pornwha,where the girl is forced to be intimate with a guy until eventually the pleasure gets to her head and she falls in love . Of course ,this manhwa is nowhere as gross or extreme as that but im sure that people wouldnt have enjoyed this story as much if naos was a woman. I know that this is a light hearted series ,so there no need for me to read into it so much but I especially feel the need to highlight the unfair dynamic coz I feel there's a huge double standard when it comes to ml's, everyone expects ml's to always do whatever the fls wants and don't expect them to have any autonomy of their own. That's why so many people have been hating on naos for being 'rude' when all he's doing upholding his boundaries and not letting her have false hope.
yall analysing the ethics of smut too much
I mean just coz it's smut doesn't mean we need to turn our brains off while reading it. Just coz it's smut doesn't mean that we as readers can't have any semblance of intelligent or meaningful conversations about it. Seriously for any smut out there,if there's even the smallest hint of dubcon or noncon,you'll see bunch of comments talking about it and no one asks them why are they analyzing the ethics of smut.So I don't understand how is me pointing out a problematic theme in this manhwa somehow seen as something unnecessary, especially when it's something that no one seems to be talking about. Having conversations whether it be praise,critique or sharing your opinions is a part of consuming media. I'm not above reading stuff with problematic themes,I've read my fair share of toxic romances but for me, it's important to understand and acknowledge that it's problematic, not just turn my brain off and gloss over it.
I mean, some of Naos behaviors are, indeed, rude - if I'm not mistaken I remember he's known for being quite a jerk -, which is why I understand people's hatred towards him and his attitudes with Pania, specially because needs her to deal with the curse.
But, as I said, I never really thought about his perspective in this whole situation and I probably would have if the roles were reversed (I tend to put myself in women's shoes more easily). So I'm glad someone's talking about this anyway! I try not to do it but often hold some double standards myself.
Imagine if the roles were reversed. A woman is affected by a curse which requires her to be intimate with a guy she doesn't like and that guy likes her so he's happy to take advantage of the situation to touch her. Also the guy is the only one who can see the missions so the woman would never know if he's truly telling the truth or trying to take advantage of the situation. The woman has made it clear that she has no intention to reciprocate the guy's feeling but the guy keeps intruding her personal space . Can it truly be considered consent when the woman is in a predicament where she cant say no because of a curse coz if naos had a choice,he wouldn't have never let pania touch him.The lastest chapter was especially icky, imagine that the guy knows that the woman is incredibly uncomfortable with the situation but makes it worse for her as an act of revenge for not reciprocating his feelings and is even enjoying it. Even if you try to justify it saying that naos likes pania but doesn't realise it,it's still icky that she enjoys situations where she gets to be intimate with despite knowing that hes uncomfortable with it. Just because she likes him doesn't mean that she entitled to him reciprocating her feelings and even if he has feelings for her, if he doesn't want to be in a relationship then he has every right to choose not be in a relationship. Its interesting that people were only uncomfortable when naos continued to fuck her after the mission ended but were never uncomfortable with the number of times he had to be intimate with pania despite not wanting to. I know that pania is not a bad person and that she and naos are endgame but I felt that i had to mention this after seeing so many people hate on naos .