I thought the duke was just a weirdo but NVM I read the spoilers and he is a huge POS

POS?

Piece of shit

omg pls spoil

Please give spoilersssss

Apparently he was abused by family of the top and lived as their servant so now the marriage serves so he can isolate the top and kill him off whenever he wants to + he assaults, coerces, manipulates, etc him for revenge (even though seme is literally not associated with it??) The marriage is only so he can further his influence in the South.

WHAT ???
Bro wtf the poor seme (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

Idk bro I think bottom has his reasons and it's not wrong for him to want to kill seme (because he suffered from SA very badly because seme's father treated him like a slave and was abused by seme's family). If I were in the same situation as him, I would kill his whole family without leaving anyone out lmao. Don't talk as if uke is a villain, he has a reason to hate seme (even though I know he's innocent, but his father and his whole family have a very serious and unforgivable crime).

The story is about revenge u know haha

From the beginning, before contacting seme, uke had the intention to take revenge like that, but in the end, after contacting and falling in love, uke didn't do that and also decided to hide the past of abuse he suffered from seme's family from seme. So I think this uke is quite good.

I get what you’re saying, but having a reason doesn’t automatically make someone right and including the SEME who WASN'T even involved, this isn’t “justified revenge,” it’s misdirected violence.

Also, seme being innocent matters. If he didn’t hurt the uke, treating him like he’s guilty by blood is basically repeating the same cycle of cruelty the uke is trying to escape.

And honestly, hiding the past from seme doesn’t automatically make the uke “good”—it just shows he doesn’t know how to confront trauma in a healthy way. It’s complicated, but it’s not as simple as “uke suffered so everything he does is fine.”(As in the uke assaulting the seme)

You said it yourself seme's family WAS the problem so why is it directed to the seme instead? Isn't that completely unfair? Why would it be justified to hurt the innocent who has nothing to do with crime itself.

You don't understand why I said uke was good when he didn't tell seme about his past, why? Because with seme's personality, if he knew about the past of his family treating uke like that, do you think he would commit suicide? I think he will haha.

It's because uke chose to keep that pain inside just to keep the seme's faith and innocence. I also said that with a position like uke, who was enslaved by SA from seme's house until he returned to his own family and was still under SA, do you think that person's mentality is still normal? What do you expect from someone who is forced to exist to take revenge on those who harmed him, having to distinguish between who is guilty and who is not?

In reality, as a victim, no one cares whether the criminal's family is innocent or not. You think everything is easy to distinguish and solve because you are not a victim and are not forced into a dead end like uke.

I find it understandable that uke wants to kill seme here haha with a rotten family from father to brothers, in your opinion, the psychology of the victim will often equate because sharing the same criminal blood, there is no good guy, that is also the reason uke wants to kill seme to wipe out seme's entire family, to wipe out that dirty, filthy bloodline.

But in the end, when uke comes into contact with seme and understands better that he is not like the dirty, evil people in his family, a flower in the mud, uke decided to put aside his past and keep it hidden so that seme would not be affected and uke will learn to love like a normal person.

I think when watching this kind of story, you should stay neutral and not lean towards any side because you dont want to understand uke's psychology or pain, but only blame him for why he harmed seme, an innocent person.

I think you’re misunderstanding my point too.

I’m not denying the uke’s trauma or acting like he should’ve been “normal.” Obviously someone who went through that level of SA and dehumanization won’t think rationally or make morally clean decisions. That’s exactly why he’s a tragic character.

But calling him “good” because he hid the truth from the seme doesn’t automatically make sense.
Yes— maybe the seme would break down or blame himself. But protecting someone’s feelings by burying your own trauma isn’t kindness, it’s self-sacrifice caused by trauma, not moral purity. It’s sad, not noble.

And you’re right that victims don’t always distinguish between individuals and the bloodline — but that doesn’t mean the story itself has to treat that as “understandable justice.” It’s still a dark, morally complicated decision.

The whole point of stories like this is to explore that messiness.

I am neutral — I can empathize with the uke’s psychology AND still say that trying to kill an innocent person is wrong.

Those things don’t contradict each other.

Understanding someone’s pain doesn’t mean every action they take becomes justified or “good.” Trauma explains behavior— it doesn’t turn all behavior into virtue.

I understand but what do you expect logically from a story with the tag revenge and the setting is history.

I understand what you said, I explain more from uke's perspective to let you know more and uke's behavior like that is also understandable haha I'm not explaining to justify his behavior with seme is right, I'm just explaining so you understand why uke acted like that.

Before reading the story, we should look at the story tag first you understand, when starting to read a story with the tag revenge like this one and can count this series also has the tag of loving the enemy's child, from enemy to lover (one side uke) and most of all this series is in the old European setting, back then the things you think stories do now are crimes, back then people thought it was normal don't forget the setting of a story it also greatly affects the character's personality.

And throughout the series I think the main purpose is for seme to heal uke and uke will have to fight his own psychology to reach seme, he is not bad just circumstances forced him to do so, that action is still wrong but it also has its own reasons.

I understand that you think uke hides his past from seme like that, myself when I heard him hide it I also felt sorry because he did not choose to solve the problem directly but chose to avoid it but when I think in the direction he worries about seme when forcing an adult to be separated from the protection of family to a strange place to learn how to grow up and be manipulated by uke to depend on him (the original plan was to kill seme) seme's psychology and mind will not be mature enough to understand that all the family he loves are beasts in human skin.

It will create a lot of pressure on seme's psychology because he is just growing up haha so I said it's good for uke not to tell seme about his past so as not to hurt him more psychologically. Maybe later when seme is old enough, uke will tell him but not necessarily now.