SPOILERS FOR LATEST CHAP

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    MysticJC August 1, 2017 11:55 pm

    Fuck me sideways.. It doesn't make any sense.
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    Why is Akitora having sex with Rogi now? I swear I can't find in me any love for this couple, they make little to no sense together.

    siva August 2, 2017 12:01 am
    Fuck me sideways.. It doesn't make any sense. SPOILER----------Why is Akitora having sex with Rogi now? I swear I can't find in me any love for this couple, they make little to no sense together. MysticJC

    I'm the same as you .....the only thing between akitora and rogi is sexual tension and that's it .This couple is forced as far as i'm concerned i don't think rogi love akitora i think what he has is an obsession as for akitora the dude is a total jerk but I think he feel a great deal of attraction and fuck them both and all hail to the mother she is amazing you know a couple in BL isn't a meant to be when you prefer the female character and that's saying a lot . F*ck rogi and akitora and their forced romance .

    MysticJC August 2, 2017 12:15 am
    I'm the same as you .....the only thing between akitora and rogi is sexual tension and that's it .This couple is forced as far as i'm concerned i don't think rogi love akitora i think what he has is an obsessi... @siva

    I feel they are forced too. I actually think Akitora has better chemistry with Asoda. I still think he married and had a son just for the sake of his yakuza family, but still: that sex scene is really out of the blue.

    Anonymous August 2, 2017 12:20 am
    Fuck me sideways.. It doesn't make any sense. SPOILER----------Why is Akitora having sex with Rogi now? I swear I can't find in me any love for this couple, they make little to no sense together. MysticJC

    So he really fucked nearly half the family. H..holy shit. This guy..does the dad and later does the son as well. I am speechless. I feel like I need a shower..in acid. I..I have no words. Just...(╯°Д °)╯╧╧

    siva August 2, 2017 12:24 am
    I feel they are forced too. I actually think Akitora has better chemistry with Asoda. I still think he married and had a son just for the sake of his yakuza family, but still: that sex scene is really out of th... MysticJC

    That's true if he were with asoda that will be less wtf i guess .More than that I think he is a man who you can't help loving being attracted to but at the same time he is someone who can't really love anybody .Still fuck these guys

    Erodesu-x August 2, 2017 1:22 am
    Fuck me sideways.. It doesn't make any sense. SPOILER----------Why is Akitora having sex with Rogi now? I swear I can't find in me any love for this couple, they make little to no sense together. MysticJC

    I agree, haha. But it was in the past afterall. In Tatsuyuki's story, it was hinted that Akitora is now avoiding Rogi, which is why Rogi resorts to blackmailing/raping Tatsuyuki - His son. This avoidance may hint that something went down after the sex scene or even further down the timeline when it was hinted that Tatsuyuki's mom had died when Tatsuyuki was age 7 ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Taking the timelines into consideration, it is very likely that Rogi will end up with the guy who tried to con him with the car prank/death. Then again, Sensei my blindside us all by revealing some juicy info that changes the game ;D

    MysticJC August 2, 2017 8:29 am
    I agree, haha. But it was in the past afterall. In Tatsuyuki's story, it was hinted that Akitora is now avoiding Rogi, which is why Rogi resorts to blackmailing/raping Tatsuyuki - His son. This avoidance may hi... Erodesu-x

    I mean, I like the story. But this is chapter what, 6? And they already fuck? WHY? Does Akitora think Rogi is attractive and smart? Is he doing it just to mess with him? Is he in love?! I don't get iiiiit!!!! Till now to me it looked just like Rogi had this absurd obsession with Akitora but now Akitora has just like validated this obsession by fucking him, which will lead toward disaster, and it seems stupid Akitora doesn't foresee this. So maybe he has further motives? I really don't see any other explanation. I get that Beriko-san is in fucking love with her Rogi character, but I really am not getting why a lot of people love him. He's like a budget Yashiro and the story is getting more and more confusing @_@! I still like it though, but I feel I have to vent, maybe because my main ship (AsodaXAkitora) went south, LOL!

    pennyinheaven August 3, 2017 2:41 pm
    I mean, I like the story. But this is chapter what, 6? And they already fuck? WHY? Does Akitora think Rogi is attractive and smart? Is he doing it just to mess with him? Is he in love?! I don't get iiiiit!!!! T... MysticJC

    I don't wanna judge any of them, esp Akitora, without the full chapter yet. But it seems Akitora was hurt and my guess is that for some reason he saved Rogi from the old fat guy. Not that I am into cheating nor do I think that doing it with a guy is not considered as cheating but I bet they got into having sex because of the rush that happened prior to the scene from the spoilers. Like how it does in the movies where after escaping from a killer or monster, the characters suddenly find the time to have sex. This is also the same when couples fight then have sex after. There is definitely chemistry between them but I understand it's confusing where that is coming from since it's hard to understand these characters. Beriko writes them cryptically. I'm also still in the process of profiling Rogi and I kind of understand him more now (love him then, love him more now, sorry) but Akitora is in a whole another level. No idea how to even gauge him.

    pennyinheaven August 3, 2017 2:51 pm
    I agree, haha. But it was in the past afterall. In Tatsuyuki's story, it was hinted that Akitora is now avoiding Rogi, which is why Rogi resorts to blackmailing/raping Tatsuyuki - His son. This avoidance may hi... Erodesu-x

    I think the story is about finding out who is Rogi through the past timeline, like flashback in a flashback, to find out why is Rogi so obsessed with Akitora. I'm guessing this sex is supposed to be a one time thing but because of Rogi's past, he couldn't let go of Akitora and then the story spirals down from there. I think this flashback is all important for Rogi to move on and open himself again for Hachi to enter his heart. As we read the flashback, Rogi in the present is remembering them at the same time, so I'm hoping by the time the flashback finishes, Rogi is also ready or in the process to accept new love. Heck this is supposed to be a 5 volume series.

    Erodesu-x August 3, 2017 3:30 pm
    I think the story is about finding out who is Rogi through the past timeline, like flashback in a flashback, to find out why is Rogi so obsessed with Akitora. I'm guessing this sex is supposed to be a one time ... pennyinheaven

    I totally agree with you! I am hoping that whatever transpired between Akitora and Rogi will be revealed in depth at some point in the story (5 volumes, really?!). As Rogi is still clearly hung-up with Akitora, as depicted in Tatsuyuki's story, it would be great to see him reflect/rectify/accept what happened in the past (unless past happenings are still going to affect the present/future happenings). I'm looking forward to learning more about Hachi too!

    pennyinheaven August 3, 2017 4:07 pm
    I totally agree with you! I am hoping that whatever transpired between Akitora and Rogi will be revealed in depth at some point in the story (5 volumes, really?!). As Rogi is still clearly hung-up with Akitora,... Erodesu-x

    I asked NijiNiji already and the plan is to make it into 5 volumes. Well it still just a plan, it may still change but I think it's worth expanding the story since Rogi is such a complicated character and so is Akitora. We're barely touching what makes Rogi who he is to make sense of his actions. We don't even know who Akitora really is. So far, all I can make out about Rogi is that his intelligence lead him into having twisted values, which ends him being misunderstood and of course, alone, and Akitora is the only one who can follow his jam. And this is why maybe Rogi is so attached with Akitora. To think I only got that now and I have no idea what was happening in the previous chapters. So definitely there is still a lot to expand about this story before we actually get into the present timeline and actually fix everything.

    MysticJC August 3, 2017 4:57 pm
    I think the story is about finding out who is Rogi through the past timeline, like flashback in a flashback, to find out why is Rogi so obsessed with Akitora. I'm guessing this sex is supposed to be a one time ... pennyinheaven

    Well it's not a one time thing because if you remember the first pages of chapter one we can see them having sex (now I have no doubt it's them since Akitora seems to have no problem having sex with Rogi).

    pennyinheaven August 3, 2017 5:16 pm
    Well it's not a one time thing because if you remember the first pages of chapter one we can see them having sex (now I have no doubt it's them since Akitora seems to have no problem having sex with Rogi). MysticJC

    It could be just Rogi's fantasy but of course it may also be not. Rogi has mentioned that he fantasizes Akitora while doing the old guy. Also, I still think it was supposed to be a one time stand but maybe (since we still don't know) things just gotten out of hand and it happened multiple times. I'm not surprised anymore, really, yet by no means I am okay with it, since it seems having an extramarital affair with a gay/transgender is quite common, apparently. (I just watched JefferyStar's video saying it is.) But of course, the time period this is happening in the story is in the 90's (right?) and in Japan so I doubt this act is acceptable. I feel bad for the wife but I do think this is why Akitora is staying away from Rogi. I just can't hate the characters anymore since I'm looking forward for the present timeline. We're just being shown the mistakes these characters have made in the past.

    MysticJC August 3, 2017 5:30 pm
    It could be just Rogi's fantasy but of course it may also be not. Rogi has mentioned that he fantasizes Akitora while doing the old guy. Also, I still think it was supposed to be a one time stand but maybe (sin... pennyinheaven

    I think it's the 80s actually. But really, it doesn't matter, I just didn't expect Akitora to be so attracted to Rogi though it's my mistake, I should have known after seeing the covers and merchandising Beriko designed for them ^^". I... still am curious about Asoda role in this, because what made me slash Asoda and Akitora in the first place was the fact that the author shows us a lot of reactions Asoda has whenever he talks about Rogi to Akitora (those long troubled looks, LOL). I always thought Asoda knew that Akitora marriage wasn't out of love (because come on, now nobody can tell me Akitora loves his wife when is doing lewd things with Rogi, LOL) and feared that Akitora could be attracted by Rogi and being extremely worried about it. I'm really curious to see Asoda reaction when he finds out what's happening. As far as the present story, my little love for Rogi and the fact that I know less than nothing about Hachi doesn't make me so curious about their development, I'm more focused on the past ^^".

    pennyinheaven August 3, 2017 6:29 pm
    I think it's the 80s actually. But really, it doesn't matter, I just didn't expect Akitora to be so attracted to Rogi though it's my mistake, I should have known after seeing the covers and merchandising Beriko... MysticJC

    I have no idea what made Akitora attracted to Rogi either. Interested, yes, Rogi's behavior with death the first time they met and still sane (or insane) to ask for pleasure is twisted yet interesting enough, but attracted, I, too, still have no answer to that. I have with Rogi to Akitora, though, and so I understand. I can't say much for Asoda. He's a character outside the situation so he can see everything; thus, he can worry about everything.

    I have to disagree with Akitora not loving his wife simply because he entertains Rogi, though. It is not clear whether Akitora does love his wife or simply obligated to their marriage but Rogi has nothing to do with it. Be it that he loves her or not, what he has with Rogi, SO FAR, is simply physical. Sex and love can be separated for most (or some) people. Their lust and physical needs and to whom they do it with is different with their emotional security and affection and to whom they share that feeling or emotion with. Maybe there will be a time where Akitora truly fell for Rogi and fell OUT of love for his wife, OR NOT. There are different possibilities but I'll leave that to Beriko how she'll take the story further.

    Also, the story is written in Rogi's perspective and so are the covers and merchandise, whether they did have a romantic relationship or not. Just my gut feel, though.

    MysticJC August 3, 2017 7:15 pm
    I have no idea what made Akitora attracted to Rogi either. Interested, yes, Rogi's behavior with death the first time they met and still sane (or insane) to ask for pleasure is twisted yet interesting enough, b... pennyinheaven

    Sorry but I don't think the story is written in Rogi's perspective. I've just seen the complete scans of this new chapter and there's a lot of Asoda thoughts before the sex scene, and I'm curious as hell to know what they are. Also yes, Akitora can love his wife but I don't think he is "in love" with her, sorry it makes little sense but that's how I see it. The complete scans though make the chapter even colder that what could be perceived from the sex scene. Also, the wife finds out and seems cool about it? FFS this manga is so confusing, I swear the only one that gets the "jealousy" tag till now is Asoda!

    pennyinheaven August 3, 2017 7:44 pm
    Sorry but I don't think the story is written in Rogi's perspective. I've just seen the complete scans of this new chapter and there's a lot of Asoda thoughts before the sex scene, and I'm curious as hell to kno... MysticJC

    By what I mean by Rogi's perspective is that it is Rogi's story and is centered about him. Other characters would have their own thoughts here and there but still the story centers on Rogi, and most would be on his perspective, and the story is told on his way/through him. Kinda hard to explain since I don't exactly know the right words to use but my experience with Saezuru is also the same. The story is in Yashiro's perspective but you get snippets of other's POV and monologues, too, yet always goes back to Yashiro.

    I get the idea when you mean "in love" and I don't wanna conclude anything yet, really. Haha. But even if Akitora is "in love" or not, he can still fuck around and ravish someone else, sad truth. Or he's curious with men and homosexuality? Maybe. Then, fell in love with Rogi and some identity/orientation crisis happen in the middle of it. The choice between love and duty; Rogi and Wife (I forgot her name)+ Tatsuyuki + Yakuza. I'm already predicting, I'm hopeless.

    Oh her being cool with it, isn't it in the recent chapter she mentioned that she is ready for anything Akitora does? Or something like that. He's always ahead of others and I'm assuming he can be weird at times. Weird includes "that" and she's prepared to it I guess. Dang, that woman is though. I believe Beriko is presenting characters with morals that are beyond normal or uncommon. Their logic is different so they are hard to understand and the story gets confusing. The only normal one among them is Asoda.

    Anonymous August 7, 2017 11:39 pm

    Is this some joke???? like are we being played???? like wtf? what the actual fuck???? i never felt this grossed out while reading a chapter. and the wife returned at the end imma vomit

    Anonymous August 8, 2017 12:28 am
    By what I mean by Rogi's perspective is that it is Rogi's story and is centered about him. Other characters would have their own thoughts here and there but still the story centers on Rogi, and most would be on... pennyinheaven

    I hope the wife will ask wtf went down there, if Akitora is he is fine with dude's now too,throw Rogi out of their house, packs her bags and leaves for a beautiful life outside these shits with her cute son - ok that won't happen, but i really wanna see her pissed, kick his ass and getting some answers. this just feels wrong, it's the 2nd time and she doesn't deserve this. I am really disppointed at Scarlet for romantizing and including cheating. It would've been better if Rogi never got what he truely desired but guess what took it only 6 chapters. Seriously....

    Erodesu-x August 8, 2017 1:36 am
    I hope the wife will ask wtf went down there, if Akitora is he is fine with dude's now too,throw Rogi out of their house, packs her bags and leaves for a beautiful life outside these shits with her cute son - o... @Anonymous

    Whilst I agree that cheating is bad, I think that Beriko has done an awesome job of portraying 'real-life' situations in the Yakuza world. I would not say she is romanticising cheating but just given a fairly accurate illustration of what happens not only in the Yakuza world, but in the real-world as well. You say that the wife does not deserve to be cheated on (I agree, no one deserves that), but many Yakuza men have mistresses (men included). The wife may not even be averse to the cheating. As suggested in an earlier comment, the wife may only be with Akitora out of obligation, not love. After all, no in-depth portrayal of love has been shown between the two. Because of this, I think it is too early to judge what is right or wrong with the current information we have about their relationships. I personally like Akitora's and Rogi's dynamics and think they have great chemistry (so far!). I do not however think that 'love' will be explicitly shown between Aki and Rogi. I think we will have to wait and see how the predicament in the latest chapter will unfurl!