You ARE a cesar apologist lmfao
Villain that are hypocrite are the worst of all because they are cowards. And that's what cesar is. A coward, violent, incestuous bastards
Your paragraph is empty. Empty of intelligence and of empathy for victims
cesar is a victim too. and im not a cesar apologist, but yeah hes both a victim AND an abuser. you have to accept the truth
As a victim of child abuse from my parents, there is NOTHING that disgust me more than victim becoming agressor, especially when it's the exact SAME patern of abuse
Like what do you mean you KNOW how painfully it is but stilk do it ? And how are using the fact that you KNOW HOW MUCH IT HURTS to justify or excuse doing the same to others and hurting them AS MUCH as people made YOU suffer
Cesar is peack man behavior, peack victim card, peack coward, peack hypocrite
So yeah, idgaf if he got beaten as a kid. You chose what you become, no one forced him to freaking MUTILATE (bc yes, leaving so much scars on someone is mutilation) his own sister in the name of "love" (ew)
So you are doing no one a favour by trying to find excuses for his behaviour
He is not the victim you think he is. He just used Ruby as a way to feel lore pathetic and that on fact makes hi behaviour WORSE
His past make his action WORSE, because HE KNEW EXACTLY what kind of pain he was inflicting
He doesn't deserve happiness as you are trying to say in your filthy comment
Saying that such an abuser deserves peace and happiness is such a low take full of contempt for victims
Being a victim in your past doesn't make you less a agressor im your present
It even make you worse of an agressor as you did what you did knowing perfectly how much it hurts
So please, stop with that fake sympathy when you are just trying to excuse so many disgusting behaviour in the name of sympathy for victims when you, in fact, didn't even think about the victims in the first place
Ew
Read the other answers i left
You alm need to stop with this
Being a victim in your past doesn't make you any less of an abuser in your present
It make you even worse
No one forced him to mutilate his own sister.
He chose to do it. No matter why, he did, end of story
You all should actually have empathy for victims as much as you have empathy for agressors because this is higly disturbing
Ruby went through the same thing, yet she chose a path
And cesar chose to be violent. End of story
i tried to reply and it deleted so im not writing all that again lmao, but he was brainwashed in thinking that thats how you love someone. im not saying he should be pitied or anything ans hope he gets what he deserves for abusing ruby but he was abused too. whats wrong with imagining a life where they could all live a normal childhood together without that shitty father..
I cannot answer either so let be do it here
The problem with her comment is actually wishing cesar's happiness in THIS lifetime
Of course the world would be better if no one ever got abused
But if we start excusing abusers that were victims what become of the victims who never turn into abusers ? What justice is this ?
At the end of the day, you chose your own behavior
I took blow for my little brother, i never gave them
Because at the end of the day it doesn't matter how beat you up, a blow is still a blow
And that is what make victim that turn into abusers the most horrible one to me. Because they KNOW
Plus, his incestuous thought about his sister, his obsession over her, him viewing her as a pet with no identity outside of her "relationship" with him, or even him using her as a tool for power as NOTHING to do with the blows he received as a child
At the end of the day, abuse or not he would have still been an horible person
He chose to mutilate his sister. And for that chose he deserve no sympathy
I agree that abusers can be victims too
But using your trauma as an excuse is disgusting
And above all, being an hypocrite and a coward make it worse
So yeah, the original comment is higly disturbing, because those kind of people don't deserve happiness
before the lunatics call me a cesar apologist, i would like to say that i just enjoy a villain. i mourn the normal childhood ruby, cesar, and enzo could have had if it wasn’t for their batshit crazy father. i appreciated the backstory for cesar because it dives into how he was brainwashed into thinking violence = love. i’m not saying he was right in his treatment towards ruby but tbh, who wouldn’t also be insane if their dad beat the living shit out of them every single time something inconvenienced him? even ruby went insane. as of now, i truly don’t see any redemption for him but it saddens me to see him live through abuse and continue the cycle without ever breaking free and becoming happy. unfortunately for him, i believe he’ll only stay a villain. if they didn’t show how crazy abusive his dad was to him also, i think i would have been able to hate him without feeling guilty. truly, if he had just communicated with ruby that everything he did was to protect her, i believe things wouldn’t have been as twisted as they are now. yes it was wrong, i’m not defending him! the pseudo incest was nasty, not defending him again, but i do see why he would grow to be obsessed with ruby. his dad’s fucking crazy and beats him, and enzo gets to do whatever he wants because he’s the pope’s real son PLUS he’s not considered capable enough to be the next pope. obviously with those two, ruby who’s innocent and sweet (my poor ruby ) would be his only solace. not defending him! cus ppl can’t understand a nuanced take.
moving on to freya, i was lowkey disappointed that her arc as a villain wasn’t as fully developed as cesar’s. with her, she’s just branded as some jealous woman who wanted to become queen. but why? i wish we could’ve gotten more! i haven’t read the novel or seen any spoilers so i don’t know what happens next but i wish we could’ve gotten backstory on her too. why is she so obsessed with power? did she truly love izek? what’s her relationship like with her mom (as we’ve seen in previous chapters, it’s not the nicest) i do sense a small redemption arc with the most recent chapter but i wish we got something else besides her being a childish woman whose sole purpose was to get in between ruby and izek. i’m so tired of women being villains but it’s only because they want the man like hello?? women are so much more than their relationship with a man? we could’ve gotten a woman who was hungry for power. she could’ve harmed both ruby AND izek because they’re the greatest contender for the throne. but no, they went the route of her wanting izek and wanting to be a queen. why couldn’t it just be her wanting to be a queen? no man! freya could have been cesar’s level of a villain and not just some third rate villain.