Bro writing long ass comments just to shit on Sejin, you didn't even know his name yet yknow ido's, keep defending the rapist while at that too
Check my comment history. I always refer to the MC as the MC. Doesn’t matter which series. Also. Nope. Not shitting on MC. I’m shitting on the commentators who don’t grasp the concepts, “the punishment should not exceed the crime” or that “a person becoming a victim doesn’t suddenly erase their past sins.” When 2 people have both done wrong, either punish them both fairly or don’t punish either of them.
Your lack of empathy is absolutely terrifying.
Oh so you don't think all the shit Sejin through wasn't enough?
Be terrified then. I grew up under two sets of child abusers. Bio parents, then adoptive parents. I’m sick to death of hearing people excuse a scumbag piece of shit human just cause “they were victimized at one point- therefore nothing is their fault”
Bad people should be punished no matter who did what to them. Also any punishment needs to be only equal to the crime. I’m so fucking sick of “the whole of society” being willing to dump hatred on one abuser, but not the other, cause “rape” makes someone evil, and nothing but rape or murder can be considered a heinous crime.
You’re not wrong. I have zero empathy for the commentators who feel that the criminal should be punished beyond their crime. Or that one criminal should be protected, sympathized with, and supported, as if they weren’t still a criminal. Justice has to be fair on BOTH sides or it isn’t justice.
Dude? You stupid? It’s called context. “Punish them both fairly or don’t punish either one” Meaning, if you guys aren’t gonna punish the MC, don’t punish the other one. And if the punishment in the past life was enough to cover the MC’s sins, that applies both sides of equal sign. How many stories have you read where people committed suicide after losing their job? Sometimes it’s an entire family suicide. Bro, you know the MC is responsible for multiple human deaths beyond his own and his unborn child’s. Go back to middle school relearn reading comprehension.
This!! This is one of the only comments that actually speaks true to the story!!
You know what, I agree with you.
The amount of ppl defending, idolizing and adoring this story without much thinking is worrysome... But again, toxic yaois gather that kind of ppl all the time.
Girl is so Catholic is laughable
You reading this illegally also warrant a punishment yknow
He literally abused him, way before the rape. It was not a one time event that made Sejin khs.. every chapter it got worse and worse until he could not take it anymore. If you think the rape is the only abusive behaviour here, I don’t think you should read it for real…
Also about what you said about him betraying Ido. Ido is well aware of a situation with his family, he’s not dumb. If he would’ve treat him like a human being to begin with this would’ve not happened. It all comes down to his behaviour towards him.
Ido deserved it.
And also, yall try to normalise rape bc in every yaoi it’s being normalised and washed, but here you can actually see the consequences of this behaviour.
I honestly think he needs to suffer more and not just because of this but because everything he has done to Sejin, and he is well aware of it.
Another rape obsessed person, just what we needed.
Stop bothering people with your petty reasons it’s really rude
I'm sorry for you and I hope you're going better now.
But I just think nobody deserve a rape.
sorry, liked it by mistake
I kinda agree but I think your wording toward the MC felt kinda wayy too hateful....I personally believe both of them were at fault (wouldn't say equally) but still despite having his own circumstances,Sejin did betray Ido and Ido did go extreme.....but at the same time both suffered and deserve to be happy at the end...I totally agree with the fact that all the comments supporting Sejin and just shitting on Ido and saying Sejin should just leave Ido, is seeing everything thru black and white and not looking thru context whatsoever.....
Besides personally something that I have noticed is that's just how it is with ppl....they overly forgive the MC's while shit on the ML.... especially most ppl just overlook when the MC betrayed someone and giving excuse for them....whereas if the ML did the same thing, they would go nuts over it
Rape obsessed??????? Hello are you okay???
It’s a traumatic event that can ruin one’s life forever. He legally needs to be in jail for more than a decade, like bro
That’s actually insaneeeeee there are girls out there that protect rapists I’m genuinely concerned.
I honestly did not understand how Sejin suffer for so long because every chapter I read, I was like I would’ve kms A long time ago, He was mentally abused all the time. You’re taking one event saying oh he needs to forgive him for that, but we’re talking about a long relationship and a long-term abuse He went through.
And I’m not even saying I hate Ido but he definitely is to blame, he is well aware of it, he says it by himself … it’s actually insane… Like go see a therapist I have nothing to say more the fuck
You could literally say it about everything. Like even if a kid was bullied and he decided to kill himself because of the mental abuse, the kids That bullied him or another one to blame ? It’s his fault? It was just mental abuse, right… They did not murder him Physically….
It doesn’t make any sense to me, Really it’s insane that’s how you view the world
I just can’t accept some people think it’s justified . This is actually CRAZYY I’m telling you. Yaoi needs to be taken away from some people I’m scared
When you look at their relationship from the start, Ido Was the one who was being abusive and caught towards him, he knew his circumstances from the start, And he was in the position of power . Sejin did something awful, I’m not saying he is an angel, But using this As an argument to justify rape, And mental abuse. Does not make sense to me. I’m so sorry… and what Sejin did is so small compared to the shit Ido did from the start.
That’s why in their second life Ido does not care about it, He understands Sejin’s Life is more valuable than any document, But he had to learn it through losing him
You people entirely missed the point. I wouldn’t care if the MC broke up with Ido I never saw him again. That would be fine with me. Frankly their romantic relationship has nothing to do with what I’m saying. I am complaining about real life human society outside of the story.
I am complaining about the number of commenters who believe that a person should be punished beyond their crime. I am frustrated with the number of human beings, who believe that if someone has ever been victimized, they should never be blamed for anything they’ve done, prior to that victimization.
Frankly, if someone’s raped you, you should have no romantic relationship with that individual going forward. I believe this. I don’t understand people don’t believe it. The fact that the MC is still with tick is gross. I am not saying anything about their romantic relationship, or whether or not the MC should forgive Ido at all. Once again, I am only complaining about the commenters. I am complaining about the people leaving comments. I am not complaining about the story. I’m complaining about the observations made by the ones reading it.
Someone who is committed or wrong should be punished for that wrong. This is especially so in the case where there were victims who suffered. Someone who is committed to wrong, should only be punished for the wrong they committed, and not with a punishment that exceeds the wrong that was committed.
I am weirded out and disturbed by a society who views rape as something so heinously evil that a person should be locked away for life and face unending hatred from society until the day they die. They should go to jail for the appropriate time. And once they done their time, they’ve already done it. They have already paid the price. This thing where people should pay the price beyond what’s due, makes it clear that society is fine enjoying hatred of someone. If you feel like punishing someone beyond their crime is fine then you don’t realize you are being an abuser yourself.
Meanwhile, it’s disgusting how people believe that someone who’s committed other acts of evil, who was later victimized, should be protected, should be sympathized with, should be treasured and cared for, as long as the wrong things they’ve done are not violent in nature.
Our adoptive father was a sexual predator of children. The children he abused, were his own. Guess what? He was nowhere near as evil as our adopted mother, who was never violent towards us in any way.
Our adoptive, mother committed abuse like: isolation, confinement, slander, toxic control, threats, and preventing us from having access to needed medical care. My sister and I are still suffering and that things she did to us. We’re not still suffering from the things our dad did to us. The rape was only rape.
Our adoptive mom created situations like: my sister, having her appendix burst inside her body, me being discharged from the hospital -after a serious car wreck- before my lacerations were treated and without any follow up care (you cannot force someone to get medical treatment. I had to leave the hospital because she was toxically controlling and used threats against me. Her threats were nonviolent in nature, so no one cared). I have brain damage. It’s never going away. I missed the window of opportunity to get treatment. I wasn’t allowed to leave the house without her permission. She would slander me to the adoptive family. Because of this, they never took my pleas for help seriously. She controlled who I could meet, where I could work, if I could go to school, and what subjects I could pursue there, what color/style of underwear I was allowed to own in my thirties…
Yup. I was non-violently abused for 27 years following their divorce. For the last 20 years, until this past summer (when I finally escaped) she used domestic financial abuse to ruin and control my life. The things my dad did could never compare to what she put me through. But society wants to protect her. She was a victim of abuse. Therefore, she can never be at fault for anything. She can’t be blamed. That would be victim shaming or some other bs. She went through so much so how could anyone blame her for making bad choices that weren’t even violent? Even if those bad choices created victims and ruined the lives of those victims…
The mc probably RUINED a ton of people’s lives with his non-violent theft, that only amounts to financial crimes. But the mc has been through so much! He was abused. Let’s all protect our sweet baby mc and forgive all his wrongs! Society needs to protect all abuse victims even if they’ve brought ruin to others. Save them. The poor rape victim’s crimes evaporated the moment he was raped!
You guys towards me: You’re telling us that a criminal who caused massive financial harm to many should face punishment for their crimes, despite that the criminal was an abuse victim- you're pro-rape! You're saying that humans wishing ill upon another human who has already paid for their crimes are crazy- you’re pro rape! You’re saying that all criminals should receive punishment under the law for their crimes, and that omission of some criminals due to public sentiment is applying the law and morality unequally- you’re pro rape!
Dude? I’m not pro-rape. Ido should have been reported to the police by the mc. Both of them should have done time for their crimes. The mc is all kinds of fucked up for continuing a romantic relationship with his former rapist. I’m not out here supporting toxic male leads. The romance should have ended as soon as rape got involved.
But since ido fucking died out of guilt, he obviously has already paid for his previous crimes. The mc and Ido should separate and move on. The real life humans reading this story and wishing further pain and suffering on a man who’s already paid for his sins is sickening. These same humans, being unwilling to acknowledge that the mc did not die due to any amount of guilt, but rather died because of self pitying reasons- and the part where his death would only excuse his past life anyway- he stole in this life too, even while being treated well, further proves to me that people like those commentators are the same type who are protecting my adoptive mother. The crime doesn’t go away just cause someone was a victim once, or even continuously for years. Victim status isn’t supposed to grant infallibility.
So many people up till now, in the comments, saying how our MC shouldn’t forgive Ido. That the MC should keep Ido suffering longer. Me here, like- Dude, people? Ido raped him. He did not murder him. He did not torture him after the rape. It was a singular rape event. He did not give him to his brother. The brother lied about that. The blow job was also consensual. MC wasn’t forced.
The MC committed suicide days after the rape, while being left alone; not tortured. He wasn’t murdered. No one killed him. The MC chose to run away from his problems, take his own life, and kill their innocent baby. Ido didn’t apologize to the MC back then, because the bond told him how afraid the MC was of him. So he couldn’t do anything because he didn’t want to further torment the MC.
Now, am I condoning rape right now? No. I would never condone it. It’s an act of evil. However, the dude committed suicide due to regret. And I feel like y’all forget that. Rape is not murder. Rape does not justify a punishment equal in cost, to the price of a human life. Taking his own life, as punishment for raping the MC, and the depression it caused, means, that Ido already paid for his crimes before the second life even began.
Let’s not pretend that Ido killed the MC. Let’s also not pretend that the MC was innocent just cause he had a shitty childhood. The MC was a corporate spy who ruined years worth of work for an entire company. In doing so betrayed Ido. Probably cost some innocent people their jobs too. Losing your job can ruin someone’s life. The MC never showed much remorse for what he did. He instead, wallowed in self pity. He acted like the victim of that situation. Poor him, boo-hoo he might go to jail- but the selfish prick STILL kept quiet and hid what he’d done until it blew up and fucked him over.
The MC fucked up his own life. His punishment (rape) was too extreme, but the net cost owed to him could never justify Ido needing to - not only kill himself, but spend his entire next life being punished by our MC. Y’all are nuts!