Cute But full of Holes

Amberwaves August 4, 2017 6:08 pm

This is very cute and adorable. But as much as I like and enjoy it, I'd be the first to admit the story is full of holes. Like why would anybody who suspects or knows his GF is cheating on him be having warm fuzzy dreams about her? From personal experience when someone close to you betrays you or hurts deeply it haunts your dreams as well for a while. At best you dream of other things, helping you to move on. I suppose what bothers me is that while I can accept the supernatural as part of the premise of the story with no problem, I still expect people in the story to be true to human nature. Otherwise the whole thing just feels unreal.

Responses
    yaoi fangirl August 4, 2017 11:45 pm

    Not everybody reacts the same. Some people would rather focus on happy memories /events

    tron94 August 5, 2017 3:27 am

    He did say he had not been resting well the previous nights, maybe he started having those fluffy dreams as a consequence of the situation with his girlfriend -like trying to remember the good times to forget his problems and then waking up feeling even worse or something. That's why when michiru started eating his dreams he could finally sleep well and wake up refreshed (if I'm not mistaken, when a baku eats a dream the person is suposed to forget about the dream they had).

    DaisiesAndLilies August 5, 2017 4:28 am

    I actually got the impression that he started having sweet and fluffy dreams in response to the presence of Michiru. And when it comes to dreams, I will pretty much go along with anything, because I still have dreams about my most asshole exes where they are the nicest people on Earth and I'm in love with them again, and it makes no sense. And I would have those dreams too even when we were still together but everything was ending and falling apart. Damn, it sucked so much to wake up from those happy dreams when reality is so starkly different.

    But honestly, I think your point is valid, and I am hoping that these holes you see will be addressed in upcoming chapters. I mean, I'm assuming the happy dreams come from Michiru's presence, but at this point, it's just an assumption, and assumptions don't make good plots!

    Cyrano August 5, 2017 3:48 pm

    I agree with you on the lack of logic in the script. There are plenty of inconsistencies, including the one you're talking of, plus we don't get to know why he looks so angry while sleaping, why his girlfriend treats him bad, why he's working so hard, why he suddenly becomes interested in a boy and kisses him without even getting an answer to some questions such as "what sort of ghost are you?" etcetera. But this story is "marked as incomplete", so the mangaka could have all the explanations in store for us if we're patient enough for her/him to draw them out..

    Teiress August 5, 2017 10:32 pm
    He did say he had not been resting well the previous nights, maybe he started having those fluffy dreams as a consequence of the situation with his girlfriend -like trying to remember the good times to forget h... @tron94

    Really?! I can't remember most of the dreams I have & its gotten to the point I can't even tell if I've had any dreams at all;;;

    Hah~ I wish I had a cute dream eating demon too~...even though he'd probably starve to death;;
    ( ̄へ ̄)

    Amberwaves August 6, 2017 9:46 am

    Dreams aren't the quite the same as memories, where we can be selective on what we choose to focus on. And I would normally say that if a person who dreamed of warm happy times of his past while not dealing with his painful present was in a state of mental denial. A sign of not being able to cope with reality. The thing that doesn't add up for me is if he isn't over his GF and her painful betrayal, he wouldn't be having a warm fluffy dream about them as a couple without some twist at the end if he was dealing with it. If he was over her, even in dreams he'd reject that image as it no longer really was a "warm and fluffy" memory anymore. Rather it had now become a symbol of something painful and unreal. Hardly a happy dream.

    I was just using this as one example of small inconsistencies that if you noticed them bothered you. And while I don't take it too seriously, I think with a bit more thought it some of these issues could have been avoided. So I suppose what bothers me is that while no doubt in some areas the mangaka and editor probably focused their efforts, I can't help but feel that in others they were at best indifferent. Most these inconsistencies could be fairly easily tweaked without changing the plot as it is, but keeping it more real.

    Cyrano August 6, 2017 4:09 pm

    It's not really necessary to take the dream-thing seriously in the story, since it's just an excuse for the mangaka to create a link between a cute ghost-like creature and a human man. The fact that he's tormented in some way just makes him more interesting, to us as well as to the little baku, who himself has problems of his own, being such a picky eater that he's on the brink of starvation (whatever will they come up with next? XD aren't mangaka funny people? ).
    That said, dreams have always intrigued us humans, we can't help trying to find "meaning" in them. I'm not sure they're supposed to have that; as far as I can tell, they're simply thoughts we think during our sleep, thoughts that get made visible, like films, by our imagination, and since while dreaming we're not bothered by common sense nor inhibitions the way we would be in reality, we're not going to stop the thought as soon as it starts looking silly or unrealistic or inconsistent with reality. So sometimes dreams go on beyond what had really happened, what we know is possible, or the antagonists (ourselves included) turn out to behave in a different way than they would in reality. I'm thinking about your dreams of these exes, Daisies&Lilies... and myself, I often dream I'm reacting to conflicts of all sorts in a way I would never do in real life: sometimes I am sooo much more assertive in my dreams that once woken, I sigh and wish I could be that way in real life, instead of letting everybody walk all over me!
    And sometimes in dreams, I react in a really agressive way, do things like rant and holler, kick and hit, things I'm far too civilised and peaceful to do in real life. Then when I wake up, I think: in my dreams, I am a real asshole sometimes... :-P
    Not that it ever helps me, for that matter: I always lose the battle or conflict anyway. It's the way I fight that's different.
    Whether that means I'm displeased with my own real personality and wish I was different, or whether I am aware of the fact that there for fortune I could have been a jerk, I don't know. Maybe a bit of both.
    Anyway, this is very interesting. But the story isn't finished, so we'll have to wait until the mangaka has finished some more episodes, and has them translated.

    Amberwaves August 6, 2017 5:56 pm
    It's not really necessary to take the dream-thing seriously in the story, since it's just an excuse for the mangaka to create a link between a cute ghost-like creature and a human man. The fact that he's tormen... Cyrano

    I don't think there's a consensus on what exactly dreams are and what purpose they serve. But I think most would agree that most dreams (whether a person remembers or not) are the kind that allows us to work through mental garbage. Like the example you gave of being way more aggressive in a dream, probably meant on some level you were getting rid of the mental frustration and aggravation you felt, but couldn't, perhaps wisely enough, express IRL. We all get really annoyed and angry without being free to say so at times, and dreams can allow us to not only express ourselves without any real damage done, but as you said when we wake up we realize that's definitely NOT what we want to do. Besides, if you're still losing the conflict in your dream it might be because you deep down know that no amount of yelling would make a difference.
    The point being there are times when people could be expected to have happy dreams of someone like a close friend or a relative, but not when they were in the middle of emotional turmoil because that person hurt them. However nice the dream starts it changes at point. The mildest I've personally experienced is simply separating with a sense of forever. I understood when I woke that as things stood that's what would happen.
    But even if the manga continues to be full of holes, I will still find interesting and cute, and will continue to enjoy reading it.

    Cyrano August 6, 2017 11:15 pm

    If only to serve us as food for thought, about dreams, it's already a good reason to hope for next episodes, right?
    I like it when mangaka don't simply copy Western style stories, but delve into the mythology of their own Japanese culture, and come up with creatures like fox people, forest gods, dream eaters and that kind of stuff! No sense in being Japanese and able to draw well, if you're going to make manga that could just as well been made in America or England, right? it's got to be realreal Japanese, that's why we don't get tired of it... let others keep reading those endless superhero-marvel-comics that always begin and end the same way...