Bad past and toxic family

Angel December 9, 2025 2:17 am

Yeah he has a really messed up family and past. There's a reason he doesn't like omegas or being around them. His family made him do a ton of stuff he didn't like, and there's a lot about omegaverse-related stuff that he doesn't know about because he wasn't properly educated. We will see more about his past and his family in the near future

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    Lybra Jei December 9, 2025 3:48 am

    What could have been the reason(s), why he’s been treating by his brothers like that? That was annoying, to be honest. Do you have suspicions or theory(s) about his brothers. For me: maybe they were his half-brother (just my suspicion).

    goldenpeanut December 9, 2025 4:36 am
    What could have been the reason(s), why he’s been treating by his brothers like that? That was annoying, to be honest. Do you have suspicions or theory(s) about his brothers. For me: maybe they were his half-... Lybra Jei

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    No, they're full brothers. They didn't grow up feeling love. Their alpha father didn't care for them and an incident with their omega dad, made their alpha dad treat them like soldiers and he rarely made them see their other dad, the only one who showed them love. Grayson has been dominant alpha since birth. He didn't get to transition and live a normal life, he always just was. In their universe, dominant alphas who don't release often, get brain damage. Grayson had violet eyes since birth, so he's always been cray cray. Grayson has been told by their omega dad that helping others is good. Unfortunately, his idea of helping is a little bit twisted as he doesn't have empathy and has no feelings. Him helping Chase since they were little, traumatized the fuck out of Chase. He actually feels love for Chase and is concerned about him. Chase is suicidal, doesn't release pheromones. To get Chase to release pheromones, he scares him about the dog. It's unfortunate, but it's what it is. It's all sad

    Matsusan December 9, 2025 1:07 pm
    Spoilers:No, they're full brothers. They didn't grow up feeling love. Their alpha father didn't care for them and an incident with their omega dad, made their alpha dad treat them like soldiers and he rarely ma... goldenpeanut

    So he's a sociopath? If so how will he feel love in his romance novel? (Grayson)

    goldenpeanut December 9, 2025 1:30 pm
    So he's a sociopath? If so how will he feel love in his romance novel? (Grayson) Matsusan

    Yes he is. For a sociopath, he's actually serious about finding 'the one' like what their parents have so he dates a lot. But one wrong move or if he gets bored, he drops them so his story is also about the women who want revenge on him haha. Their alpha dad actually arranged to have people teach him about having appropriate reactions growing up as he gave up about Grayson ever understanding emotions. He'd do the reactions but it's eerie as some of it look too practiced and all and the alpha dad hated him as he looked like their grandfather whose story I refused to read (he was horrible). Grayson was actually kind of patient with Dane and pursued him the best he could. It took a long time as Dane also had issues and didn't care for himself and especially Grayson. He eventually kind of start to feel different feelings when he met Dane and that's when Dane realized that maybe Grayson could have been better if he was shown love, kindness and compassion growing up

    Matsusan December 9, 2025 1:36 pm
    Yes he is. For a sociopath, he's actually serious about finding 'the one' like what their parents have so he dates a lot. But one wrong move or if he gets bored, he drops them so his story is also about the wom... goldenpeanut

    So all of the family novels have happy endings even if the person is shit? Grayson, their grandfather, etc?

    goldenpeanut December 9, 2025 1:44 pm
    So all of the family novels have happy endings even if the person is shit? Grayson, their grandfather, etc? Matsusan

    Hmmmmm the grandfather's one was the only one I knew that doesn't have a good ending. If you read the spoilers about it, it'll put you off so much. For their dads, I liked it so much but when they had children, the story became a bit sour for me because I was thinking, why have such a good love story but be horrible parents?? There are six Miller children and so far only 3 of them have stories, one still ongoing (their eldest, the lawyer). Not sure if you read the first one in this universe, Kiss Me Liar. It was the one that started me on this. I was starting to get discouraged as Kiss Me Liar and Kiss Me if you can had been out for years and then we finally saw the light last year or was it this year when the parents' story came out. I guess Zig got motivated when Kiss me if you can finally got serialized as a manhwa

    Matsusan December 9, 2025 2:13 pm
    Hmmmmm the grandfather's one was the only one I knew that doesn't have a good ending. If you read the spoilers about it, it'll put you off so much. For their dads, I liked it so much but when they had children,... goldenpeanut

    Can you please tell me the spoilers for what happened with their dads for them to become such bad parents? And yeah I tried reading kiss me liar but I couldn't get into it so all I know about this family is what 'kiss me if you can' manwha has shared until now (which is almost nothing)

    goldenpeanut December 9, 2025 3:12 pm
    Can you please tell me the spoilers for what happened with their dads for them to become such bad parents? And yeah I tried reading kiss me liar but I couldn't get into it so all I know about this family is wha... Matsusan

    There was a timeskip for their dads. By the time they met up again as adults, the alpha dad had changed and became brain damaged. He didn't release pheromones via sex and the IV thing didn't work well in their time (the kids had creepy Steward but in theirs, there was no dominant alpha obsessed doctor). They are both dominant alpha and dominant omega so their kids were bound to be dominant. The omega dad wanted lots of children, the alpha didnt because of his past, but the omega won lol. The alpha really wanted children that looked like the omega dad but it seemed like everyone inherited the blonde hair from him. The first child was okay until the twins were born (Grayson and Stacy). They had violet eyes and showed no signs of empathy growing up especially towards Chase who was a sweet baby who only wanted love. The eldest was strict, didn't act like a kid, kept to himself. The omega dad couldn't smell and the kids learned about this. One day, the twins decided to test this by 'baking' a cake made of detergent iirc. The omega dad touched by this, ate the cake and almost died while the kids even the eldest who understood their plans, just watched him dying. Good thing the alpha dad showed up just in time from work. From then on, he didn't allow the omega dad to raise them, keeping him and the kids away from each other. The alpha dad said something about raising them like a general. It's not explained why the omega dad just allowed this but in Grayson's story, they've both acknowledged that they failed their kids as by that time, they've reconciled with Chase and met their grandchildren via Josh's efforts

    Matsusan December 9, 2025 9:42 pm
    There was a timeskip for their dads. By the time they met up again as adults, the alpha dad had changed and became brain damaged. He didn't release pheromones via sex and the IV thing didn't work well in their ... goldenpeanut

    Holy shit, honestly now I understand the alpha father though, imagine your own children trying to kill the person you love and the person that raised them???? Yeah makes sense why he made his partner (omega dad) live far from them. So basically the twins are mostly at fault?

    goldenpeanut December 10, 2025 2:09 am
    Holy shit, honestly now I understand the alpha father though, imagine your own children trying to kill the person you love and the person that raised them???? Yeah makes sense why he made his partner (omega dad... Matsusan

    Yeah kind of? But by the time the children came, the alpha dad really didn't care for any of them. They also showed dominant alpha traits at a young age, while looking like him and his father, putting him off even more. Even Nathaniel the eldest, transitioned at 10 or so. Chase was the only one who seemed normal but he became so closed off after getting rejected by the parents multiple times and being 'bullied' or as Grayson says, 'helped' by the twins. Grayson got the brunt of it it seems as the punishment done by the grandfather to his father, was also done to him which was really sad in his story when Grayson tried to reason it out. The other two children after Chase didnt even get a mention as that's where the parents started abandoning them. But it was kind of implied that Bliss, the youngest, was also isolated from the others due to him being dominant omega.

    Matsusan December 10, 2025 4:08 am
    Yeah kind of? But by the time the children came, the alpha dad really didn't care for any of them. They also showed dominant alpha traits at a young age, while looking like him and his father, putting him off e... goldenpeanut

    It's such a weird family tbh, they made so many kids which the ages were far apart as well but couldn't raise a single one right? I can't even imagine how the author would try to make all of them have happy endings specially looking like most of them don't deserve it

    goldenpeanut December 10, 2025 6:06 am
    It's such a weird family tbh, they made so many kids which the ages were far apart as well but couldn't raise a single one right? I can't even imagine how the author would try to make all of them have happy end... Matsusan

    Haha yeah. It's interesting as Zig doesn't hold back and doesn't downplay the traits they have so it's always so questionable how they'll put it off. I mean, she even wrote the grandfather's story and I think they said they'll also create Angel's story, Keith Pittman's omega dad, the dominant omega shared between five dominant alphas who hated every single one of them so it's obviously going to be tragic

    Toru December 10, 2025 12:20 pm
    Holy shit, honestly now I understand the alpha father though, imagine your own children trying to kill the person you love and the person that raised them???? Yeah makes sense why he made his partner (omega dad... Matsusan

    You're not getting the whole picture. Ashley became emotionless, only the obsessive love for Koi stayed and he also became dependend on Koi's pheromones.
    And Ashley was jealous of his own children. He didn't want Koi to release pheromones for anyone else but him. And even before the baking incident, he tried to make Koi spend less time with the children, started with spaying pheromones in their rooms to making it possible for Koi to visit a lecture.
    By the way Ashley almost killed Grayson ( who was under 10 years old when the baking incident occured), what saved Grayson was a trait he inherited from Koi.
    And Nathanile asked to be send to a boarding school, the reason: that he knows that he is in they way of his parents relationship.

    Toru December 10, 2025 12:41 pm
    Yeah kind of? But by the time the children came, the alpha dad really didn't care for any of them. They also showed dominant alpha traits at a young age, while looking like him and his father, putting him off e... goldenpeanut

    Nathaniel's eyes turned purple when the twins were born and Larien with 4? Ashley said in Grayson's story that 4 of the manifested before they were 5 years old.
    Ashley's main focus was always Grayson, because he physically reminded him the most of Dominic. Add that he released more pheromones than any other of his children/normal dominant alpha, and he is most likely far stronger than a normal dominant alpha.
    Which makes me wonder what's the deal with Stacy. I know they are fraternal twins, and Grayson mentioned they are not the same. And Ashley only focused that much on Grayson. Is there a difference concerning the gender? Or Stacy manifested after Grayson, since only Grayson's eyes were open and Ashley went by pheromones scent, but given that Grayson releases more than normal... .
    Ever since it was mentioned that Grayson releases more pheromones than the other and Ashley doesn't seem to be concerned that much about Stacy, it really irritated me.

    goldenpeanut December 10, 2025 1:36 pm
    Nathaniel's eyes turned purple when the twins were born and Larien with 4? Ashley said in Grayson's story that 4 of the manifested before they were 5 years old. Ashley's main focus was always Grayson, because h... Toru

    It's totally the gender. As you said, reminded him of his father which he hated the most so Stacy got a pass. I'm not even sure if we're ever going to get the girls' stories as Zig has only written bl that i'm aware of - if not, i didn't know which titles

    Toru December 10, 2025 2:20 pm
    It's totally the gender. As you said, reminded him of his father which he hated the most so Stacy got a pass. I'm not even sure if we're ever going to get the girls' stories as Zig has only written bl that i'm ... goldenpeanut

    As I said, I'm not certain about Stacy, it's either her gender or Ashley was wrong and she really wasn't born manifested like Grayson ( since her eyes were closed and he ony went by pheromone secent). Because Ashley said that Grayson releases more pheromones than the others ( simelar to the one Steward keeps in his lab) and never mentioned Stacy in this context and they are fraternal twins not identical.
    No, there are no stories for the female Millers planned. So far the remaining known planned titles are for Bliss ( Deflower me if you can), Angel (Kiss me villains) and his other children ( Hayden Shepard ( Kiss me Bait), Byron, are the names of the other's 2 known? I thought I somewhere read one more name.). And that she'll write a story for Henry x Isaac.

    Matsusan December 10, 2025 4:11 pm
    You're not getting the whole picture. Ashley became emotionless, only the obsessive love for Koi stayed and he also became dependend on Koi's pheromones. And Ashley was jealous of his own children. He didn't wa... Toru

    So many names that I have no idea who they are but what I got from it is: omega dad was jealous of his own children and made alpha dad be distant towards their children bc of it, is that right? And then one of the twins weren't right in the head, tried killing omega dad and the oldest also just watched not helping bc they thought he deserved it. Am I right?

    Toru December 10, 2025 7:09 pm
    So many names that I have no idea who they are but what I got from it is: omega dad was jealous of his own children and made alpha dad be distant towards their children bc of it, is that right? And then one of ... Matsusan

    No. There are two Ashleys, Ashley Juliette Dawson was the omega ( formaly gamma) father of Ashley Dominic Miller.
    Ashley Dominic Miller is the dominant alpha father of the Miller siblings.
    Connor "Koi" Niles is the dominant omega father of the Miller siblings.
    The whole thing sounded more like an experiment.
    I don't think that they were really aware what it did to Koi.
    But what I found strange was that no one was paying attention to what the children were doing, although they had several nannies. I mean Grayson was an under 10 years old child and they let him bake a cake without keeping an eye on him?