are they about to make the Ash a villain? im on chapter 43. Someone please let me know so ...

Rkaa December 11, 2025 12:42 am

are they about to make the Ash a villain? im on chapter 43. Someone please let me know so i can drop this, i refuse to read a book where a victim of imperialism is villainized

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    Asuramura December 11, 2025 6:06 am

    i want to know the same. it was my biggest issue with death is the only ending for the villainess where she uses and the dumps the guy who was a slave rather than like idk being a decent person..

    Rkaa December 11, 2025 9:17 am
    i want to know the same. it was my biggest issue with death is the only ending for the villainess where she uses and the dumps the guy who was a slave rather than like idk being a decent person.. Asuramura

    It’s so weird how common it is in these books, the way they reinforce and justify the class system

    xpfares December 11, 2025 4:04 pm
    It’s so weird how common it is in these books, the way they reinforce and justify the class system Rkaa

    Hardly unreasonable a plot though. Villains usually aren't born, they are made. Mess with someone enough and you end up getting exactly what you feared.

    Rkaa December 11, 2025 5:32 pm
    Hardly unreasonable a plot though. Villains usually aren't born, they are made. Mess with someone enough and you end up getting exactly what you feared. xpfares

    my problem is that these stories always make the “undesirables” the villains as a “you see we were right to treat them that way” it’s always weird. The story would be a lot better if it followed like ash instead. A revolution that dismantles the church and class system would be so much better. Many manhwa authors do not have the range to discuss these topics that why there’s always the random racism to make the mc a white savior or the orientalism where the fair skinned white woman is saving a bunch of “barbaric and uncultured people” from themselves even tho the mls in these stories are barbaric and war criminals themselves

    xpfares December 11, 2025 8:39 pm
    my problem is that these stories always make the “undesirables” the villains as a “you see we were right to treat them that way” it’s always weird. The story would be a lot better if it followed like ... Rkaa

    I can't recall too many stories where there ended up being a "you were right to treat them that way" situation but you're 100% right about the white saviorism. Which is funny because most of these authors are probably not white lol.

    Tbh I get frustrated with the "lol church bad" plots but given east Asian history I get it. I don't think you'll ever see any kind of plot like what you said though. Class and religion will always be with us one way or another and the liberal / communist values you're talking about are deeply rooted in a western European context. I'm not sure you'll see a lot of east Asian authors resonate with what is ironically a kind of ideological imperialism.

    Good point on the MLs too. Every gal wants a war criminal haha