Pls grow up

If you actually had basic empathy and not whatever selective blindness you’re using right now, you’d understand how damaging it is for a child to be told “get that thing out”. That’s not a misunderstanding, bruh. This emperor man made a wound. And pretending otherwise just makes you look dumb. You’re judging this situation from the outside while completely ignoring Philomel’s lived experience, the fear, the humiliation, and the emotional scar that didn’t magically disappear just because this supposed father for her decided to care later.
The fact that she doesn’t resent him isn’t proof that he was a good father, it’s proof she was forced to mature early to survive emotional neglect. That’s heartbreaking, not wholesome grrr. If he truly cared from the start, he wouldn’t have allowed the maids to mistreat her, Nor would he have ignored her existence until she conveniently changed into someone more acceptable. His affection only came after her forced character development, the stage where she became acceptable for him, which doesn’t erase the damage already done.

Another thing, just cuz he's an emperor doesn't mean it's an excuse for his neglect . History literally disproves that. There were kings like Henry IV of France who ruled entire nations and still let their children climb on them and ride on their backs. Power never stopped people from being present parents. Neglect is neglect, emotional neglect is abuse too, and no amount of late-stage redemption erases that. Defending a grown man’s feelings over a child’s trauma isn’t maturity or media literacy, that's just your willful ignorance bruh.

You're the one who should grow up, media illiterate idiot.

Ikr? I like the emperor. Yes he made mistakes and was awful in the past but he’s changed so mu ch and most of Phil’s fears came because she read a book that she thought was her future but it turned out to be fake

Saying I should grow up and calling me media illiterate when you’re the real immature media illiterate one is hilarious. I do have empathy and maturity, hence why I can feel for both Phil and the emperor. I never once excused his actions, I said he isn’t the same man from “the original novel” and from the start. Someone that was truly evil wouldn’t regret his actions or do his best to change. Being mature and media literate is understanding that he is literally an emotionally constipated man that just finished losing the love of his life and was drinking himself to forget the pain. In doing so he treated Phil horribly - yes not once am I denying that - but when he started opening his heart to her and beginning to think for himself and not the character the author created him as, he changes from the man he was and becomes better for Phil. Is he suddenly the best father of the year affectionate as hell? No, and one shouldn’t expect that from someone that literally said how his childhood and life was. But he undoubtedly cares for Phil and wants only the best for her. His affection is literally higher for Phil than his own biological daughter. Please grow some brain cells and think before speaking

Exactly!!!

Sigh...

No, and this is exactly why I’m calling your take sloppy. I was never talking about the original novel or the prophecy book Philomel read (or the version of him in the novel sh read). That was you putting words in my mouth bruh. I’m talking about the beginning of the manhwa itself. From the start of the manhwa, he was emotionally neglectful, verbally cruel, and completely absent. That’s canon. It was shown as a memory to Philomel tf. You don’t get to rewrite that just because he improves later.

You keep insisting you’re not excusing his actions, but then you immediately explain why they’re understandable, forgivable, and outweighed by his growth. That is excusing them. His grief, alcoholism, and terrible upbringing explain his behavior, they do not soften the damage done to a child who had no agency, no protection, and no choice but to adapt. Once again ha, Philomel was a child!

And no one is denying his character development. The issue is that Phil only receives care after she changes to survive him. That’s not wholesome parenting bruh, that’s a fucking delayed redemption arc. Liking who he becomes doesn’t erase who he was when she needed him most. If you can’t separate growth from accountability, that’s not media literacy, that’s bias. Did you even read? Tsk

I’m not doing this you just want to hear yourself talk. I mentioned the beginning of the manhwa but if you’re blind and just want to go off to go off then so be it. End of the day I stand by what I said as a literal media major. Go tsk sigh somewhere else

Pfft. Credentials don’t replace reading comprehension, girl. Canon is still canon. Now that you mentioned which major you are, that's even worse. Did you even learn from your college? Bahahaha, useless... Mind you ha, what I'm talking about mentioning the beginning is because I'm implying his past that made a significant and permanent impact on Philomel, and not his current intent. IMPACT over INTENT tf. Dropping some credentials like it would actually make you credible, lol you're funny.

The opening clearly depicts the emotional neglect, verbal cruelty, and complete absence. And those moments were explicitly framed through Philomel's memories for a fucking reason. Acknowledging that he later regrets it or changes doesn’t address the IMPACT those early actions had on a child who had no PROTECTION or AGENCY.

My argument has never been that he doesn’t grow or that he stays evil forever (I keep mentioning this shit that he fucking changes). It’s that his care only appears after Phil is forced to change herself to survive, conditional care in other words. Explaining his grief, alcoholism, or upbringing contextualizes his behavior, but it doesn’t undo the harm caused during Phil’s formative years. Growth doesn’t retroactively erase neglect, and regret doesn’t heal trauma BITCH.

So, standing by your opinion... Yeah, you're ignorant. Claiming media literacy while repeatedly prioritizing a grown man’s redemption over a child’s lived experience is not analysis, it’s bias nga pakshet. If you’re done discussing, that’s your choice. The canon doesn’t change either way.

Don't bother arguing with them girl- pag bobo, bobo wag na ipilit. Walang utak ngani

Kaya ang hirap kalaban mga bobo eh, apaka kitid ng utak. You can convince an intelligent person with one evidence. Someone willfully ignorant will reject 99 facts just to protect one belief.

Sorry I pressed the wrong button I mean to press but ended press


I'm a child who is in the same condition as Phil even though I not switched child

My father does the same exact as the emperor treat Phil when she's still little girl, neglect, saying words that say he "hates, doesn't care, and doesn't want to know" about his child
And my father change now, he always trying to give his best to me, he's loving and gave me affection like any other parent to their child
BUT THAT DOESN'T REMOVAL THE PAIN AND DISAPPOINTMENT I HAD WITH MY FATHER WHEN I WAS A CHILD!!!!
And right now, my felling to my father is just respect because like you said "he trying to change"
But I don't "love" him anymore, I don't want his affection anymore like when I'm still a child
(sorry I'm telling my personal experience in here

CLOCK ITT

Truly pains me to see that besides media literacy, people lack basic reading comprehension as well. No where in either of my post and replies did I say Phil doesn’t have a right to feel angry or any way about her adoptive father’s earlier treatments. Even the emperor said himself she doesn’t have to forgive him, he just wanted her to know he is genuinely sorry and just wants to support her from here on out.

My point was THE FACT EVERYONE CALLS HIM HORRIBLE AND THE WORST when he genuinely ISNT. Does a horrible father condemn everyone that mistreats her? Does a horrible father purposely sit back from an event she’s holding bc even though he wants to be there and hand her a gift, he doesn’t want to ruin her happy moment? Does a horrible father consistently take her side over anyone else’s? He literally has higher affection with her OVER HIS BIO DAUGHTER. Is he perfect? Far from it. But to sit there and say wow I hope Phil never forgives him he doesn’t deserve to even exist near her or whatever. Grow up and be able to understand the point of this manhwa (haven’t read the original novel) is that these characters were able to grow from the path the author set them as. The author wrote him to never love and care for Phil - the father you saw up until she got sick. When he visited her and wondered to himself if she was just like he was as a child, he started to change. No shit her changing changed him SHE CHANGED EVERYONE AROUND HER BY DOING SO HENCE WHY NASAR LIKES HER AND NOT OG FL. BC SHE WAS THE CATALYST THEY WERE ALL ABLE TO CHANGE AND BECOME THEIR OWN CHARACTERS PAST WHAT THE OG AUTHOR DICTATED THEIR PATHS AS.

The emperor cares about Phil and sees her as his daughter. He isn’t the same alcoholic that hurt her in his own drowning pain. If you can’t see that that’s your own problem. I’m muting this convo now grow tf up pls

Aww I get it, honestly. When a parent changes later, it doesn’t magically undo what they did when you were a kid. That pain still sticks. Trying doesn’t automatically mean forgiveness, and it’s okay if love doesn’t come back the same. You’re not wrong for feeling that way at all.

Oh my god, she didn't get my point and she even strayed from her point. Naging pointless ka tuloy, gulo mo teh. Thought we were talking about the emperor, why was Nasar involved na? And I thought she muted this already cuz she wanted to end the conversation earlier? Or was this even a conversation? Bahahahaha

Bitch, reason he was being called as "horrible" cus he was fucking horrible tf. Your "does a horrible father" blah blah does not make him better, ok? He got better indeed, but his horrible actions in the past cannot be undone by his character improvement. My point has always been "impact over intent". His impact outweighs his current intention. And why are you saying he loves Phil more than his bio daughter? The fucking hell does that make him better?! Kagigil tong bruhang to. College ka na d pa marunong umintindi.

The scene where he visited her when she was sick late at night, that's the fuckass BARE MINIMUM! Baka di pa nga bare minimum eh, maybe a flicker of basic decency?He cares? He cares now, but he DIDN'T CARE before. And why do you keep romanticizing Phil being a catalyst for their change? Bitch, that's an emotional tragedy. Why does a child need to rewrite hersef, suppress her personality, and mature emotionally early just to receive the basic care? Trauma is not growth, and suffering is not character development. Wag mo isali dito si Nasar Kasi ibang usapan yan. Wdym he didn't change when she changed? Hell nah, when Phil was acting like the child she was, what did that bastard do? He. Ignored. Her . But when she started acting desperate enough (cuz she needed to survive after reading the book she thought was the future), that was when a spark of concern or interest started to ignite. The aid needed to intervene just to make this asshole have even a slight change of heart.

Lemme ask. When Phil was suffering under the bullying of the servants, where was this son of a horse's dick? Nowhere. When Phil was not getting treated right by this supposed nanny, where was he to protect her? In his office, doing his job as the ruler he was. Mind you ha, they were both in the same palace, yet it didn't even reach his ears of Philomel's situation. Why? Because he doesn't gaf. Why did he let that nanny, after being driven away, return to the palace after knowing her crimes and sins against this "daughter" (Philomel) of his? Oh fuck him. Hope he gets a backshot from that irritating knight.

his grief, him being a drunkard ass, his “hard life”? Context yan, hindi excuse. Adults can be depressed and still act like adults. Emotional and mental instability doesn’t erase your responsibility toward a helpless child under your care, yet not even once during her nine years of early life did it occur him to care for her. Impact matters more than intent (uulitin ko d nya magets eh) , and the IMPACT he had on Phil during her years development was permanent and damaging. You can’t reset that, like some computer, away with a few scenes of later “affection”. Achuchu mo

Please intercourse with your brain, who knows it might stimulate it to think better. Tatay mo puta, sarap mo batukan ng magtrabaho ulit yang neurons mo.

I don't care if you read this haha, bobo mo.

I just noticed this hehe. I see, stupidity is sadly viral. Thankfully, Im immune so I was spared from this sickness.

My grammar did not grammar properly cuz I was typing too fast. Meh

LOVE THIS THREAD!! CLOCKED IT, GURL!! FEEL KO YUNG STRESS MO UMABOT TLGA SA LANGIT LOL