Oh Dear Me!

well that guy didn't say anyhting about the wallet and because he said the wall guy's real name the employee might thought (which he already did in some pages, he said "is he really a friend if mitsuru told him about this address") he is just a sex friend or lover kinda thing

Ok- Let us for a moment see it from the employee's POV. Some guy, likely a customer walks in and then asks for one of the "working" staff by real name. Do you just assume that he is a friend and that the staff member told him about the place, but somehow forgot to tell him to ask for him by stage name? Or do you assume that the guy either knows nothing of the place, or perhaps what exactly his friend does there? Or even that the guy is a friend at all? As you can tell there are an awful lot of possible explanations, and all things considered it is pretty dumb and risky just to assume that he was told about the place from his friend.

well of course what you are saying is logical but I assume that they are in red light strict which is a place full of different people and even though he may be stupid but won't just anyone think that some place which is really hard to find and has lots os stairs and when the guy comes in the employee quickly starts to talk about the prices and after that he just asks about mitsuru. Like I said right after the prices. I don't think that it's employee's fault but more like the guy is too stupid to see what's really going on

Yes, well, and that is partly why I felt the whole scene felt forced. Normally I would think new customers would be asked more questions as to their preferences etc. as part of the subtle vetting process, and so asking for someone by their real name would be a red flag that would give both of those employees there pause. That should have made them ask how he knew him and his real name, at the very least. So that employee's not just stupid, but really bad at his job.

idk if you read the other manga by this author, but that one has the same butt-wall setup but with two brothers, which makes it even worse. i think the awkwardness/cringe/taboo is part of the kink for her

Well I just want to say that it's just fiction and there is not even a real thing like butt wall. this is just fiction, just imagination! of course in real they wouldn't even just take him in he may be a stalker or some shit but it's fiction! in the next episode he can puke rainbow and fart perfume and just disappear

Oh! The butt wall is actually a real thing. >.< I got curious and looked it up and... I ... seen things... Japanese porn takes kinks to a new height :I

wait, do they really do something like this!!?? ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

I realize its fiction, and my OP was about how one part seemed a bit forced and why. You were the one who decided to argue the point with me. If I choose to point out at some other time of a manga that the dialogue is unnatural would that be wrong of me? Personally, how serious a flaw something like this is depends on what type of story I'm reading. In this case, not really.

I do know that I kinda started to argue but well I was kinda stressed and even little things could tempt me. I just hate the idea of criticizing something like this, I mean it's just manga if you don't like it then don't read it but well if you wanted to give author a simple comment then you could do it a lot nicer. Once again I understand that I started this whole thing so I'm sorry.

First off, there's no need to apologize. You have absolutely nothing to apologize for. When I said "argue" I meant as in debate, which is quite fine with me. And believe me, I understand and sympathize with you when it comes to stress. Have too much of that myself. But I doubt the mangaka is reading my, or any of the comments here. What I wrote isn't for the mangaka, but for other readers in this forum. And to me, this forum is a place where we readers can share and voice our opinions of mangas, and, unless someone is being really rude and obnoxious, I think it a good thing for this forum to be tolerant of differing opinions, even those that may be partly or completely critical of a manga someone else liked. Personally, I for example seldom downvote anything.

I understand that we all can share our own opinions but when someone (not you, just one of my past experiences) says that it's trash even though I liked it so much it just seems sad for me. I mean if you don't like something then don't read it. why try to make it bad for everyone? And yes I agree with you we can all share our own opinions but why not tell it more kindly?

Agreed. There's a difference between just rudely stating that something is trash and giving a well argued critique. In the second case, even if you disagree you at least understand why the person had that opinion, and can judge whether or not there's some merit to their argument. In the first case, you have no idea why that person felt that way, so all you can do is disagree and get annoyed. In my opinion, as long as people are simply politely stating their viewpoints, and if critical explaining why so everyone else can understand, that is all one can ask. Sometimes I can be critical exactly because the story and the characters matter to me, and I feel that a sudden turn or plot twist totally betrays the story or characters, forcing everything to seem very contrived. As someone who grew up reading and discussing books, the idea that you can't critique a book or manga you like is really foreign to me. Even with some of my all time favorite books I'd be the first to admit that they have some faults.

I totally agree with you and now that you explained why you think like that I can understand some things from your point of view too. And I do agree that the employees didn't protect their staff, I mean he was clearly sick. Maybe he had a cold or flu. They could just give him a day off. Even though he needs money the employees should support him not just tell some random dude that he should help the guy. Anyway I do critique the books or manga or movies, I just don't like sharing them cause something I don't like may be someone's favorite. Like I don't like innocent ukes cause they seem too unrealistic, but someone may like them and if I write in the comments "The uke is too unrealistic I didn't like him" someone can get sad, well at least that's what I think. I also think that some people look at comments before reading the manga that's why they can be like "hmm it has lots of bad comments maybe I shouldnt read it" however maybe if they read it they would actually really like it! Anyway it was nice talking to you like this.

Actually I rely sometimes on critical comments like those to avoid things I don't like myself. I also tend to get annoyed with certain tropes, and if someone makes a well reasoned criticism I pay attention. I don't see why anybody should become so easily sad just because their preference wasn't to everyone's taste. Some people do like the dumb over innocent uke obviously, and find it cute. And some of those mangas may have other redeeming things going for them that I enjoy, despite a dumb innocent uke. So I always try fair in my comments, though usually making more of a point of explaining any criticism than praise. My own family doesn't think much of my taste for yaoi, but what the heck I don't feel the need to defend every genre I read or watch for my own entertainment to them.
And yes it is always nice when we do talk and exchange ideas without having to be mean or nasty about it. Don't understand why so many find it necessary to do so. Thankfully there's a lot of nice decent people out there who don't.