I want MinhoXSeukyung

youraedthiswrogn January 24, 2018 11:57 pm

In the 1st place, class prez seems to have a prejudice towards Minho of some kind, though it hasn't been revealed yet and he's avoiding talking to Minho about it. Seukyung has feelings for him already and his life is impacted in a positive light by his love for Minho. There has literally only been 2 instances where Minho hit a "flag" with class prez, when he complimented his haircut and when he confessed, and class prez's thoughts on him are "you're getting in the way of my love for Seukyung" and "i should avoid him till graduation". People are iffy about Seukyung as a person because he's been portrayed in a negative light intentionally, but what has he really done? The only action that he's taken that could be considered "bad", aside from smirking and eye glinting at suspicious times, was his harsh rejection of class prez just now. If you think about it, class prez is doing the same to Minho by not answering, running away and then planning to avoid him. Right now, class prez doesn't think much of Minho, so i think it'd be great for him to work on getting over the breakup and let MinhoXSeukyung be a thing, then everyone could have someone.

Responses
    Wow January 25, 2018 1:45 am

    Wow, wow, wow.

    Way to minimize dishonesty and cruelty.

    What you mean the only thing he has done wrong is harsh rejection of Hajun.? Smirking?

    Please, for the love of God. Everybody ships who they want but can't people at least hold on to what is decent and honest?
    Are we that far up our asses that we can't just accept that we can ship a character just because he is better looking and stop putting pearls on a pig so he won't look so bad?

    What the Pinkie did? Let's see:
    - He knows Hajun likes him. He heard his confession. So what he does? He doesn't rejects Hajun. He goes on a very cruel manipulation and uses the guy's feelings to get attention from Minho.
    Notice that he does that in a very cold and calculated way. He knows Minho likes Hajun. He knows Hajun likes him and he doesn't care. He only care about his own selfish goal. His cruelty is astonishing.
    And when does he rejects Hajun? Does he do it like a man? No, he does it like a coward, when is confronted by Minho and after being caught. He doesn't reject Hajun harshly, he humiliates him in front of Minho.

    And you mean Hajun is doing the same to Minho???? "If you think about it", Hajun did rejected Minho clearly, honestly and more than once. From his POV, Minho is harassing him after he asked several times to be left alone.
    Hajun never manipulated Minho, never gave him false hope ( like Pinkie did ).
    His rejection of Minho is honest as it should be.
    Minho confessed, Hajun rejected him right away and that is what he cannot be forgiven by people hating on him for nothing.

    Fuck. Pinkie is hot and all but minimize his cruelty and dishonesty while portraying the other guy -- whose biggest fault is to be less good looking and fail to impress yaoi fangirls- as in the same level is just too much.

    Anyway, the Pinkie gets another dick to suck on later on the story. Don't worry. He is going to be just fine.

    The monstrous uke who dared to be cold to Minho gets the good guy. Oh, the tragedy!

    2minion January 25, 2018 1:58 am
    Wow, wow, wow. Way to minimize dishonesty and cruelty. What you mean the only thing he has done wrong is harsh rejection of Hajun.? Smirking? Please, for the love of God. Everybody ships who they want but c... @Wow

    I honestly fell in love with you over this comment. I hate the comment section on this manhwa because of all the people hating on Hajun over him being human and having normal human responses to stuff. Everyone calls him a jerk for rejecting Minho and trying to avoid him and no one wants to accept that he did that because he honestly had someone else he liked and Minho kept pressuring him and chasing after him even after he asked him to leave him alone.
    And I don't know how they can be so forgiving of Pinkie's manipulation.
    Oh, and the comments about Hajun being a tsundere. He isn't. If people had bothered to take notice of how the author portrays him when talking to pinkie whom he BLOODY LIKES. He is sweet and cute then but noo just because he acts cold towards Minho whom he DOESN'T LIKE (yet) he is a jerk or a tsundere or shit. Honestly...

    Fairness January 25, 2018 2:13 am

    Listen, I never warmed to Blackie and I like Pinkie too because he's hot ( right now this is the only reason I like him to tell the truth). However this shit is not fair comparison at all.

    There is a reason why Minho is mad at Pinkie not Blackie. Minho can see the seriousness in Pinkie's actions so why can't the readers see it too?

    He can see the guy is doing something very nefarious and cruel while Blackie, for all his rudeness, just don't want contact with Minho. We may not like Blackie because he is cold to Minho but at no point he was dishonest and deceiving like Pinkie.

    If Minho is chasing Blackie even after being rejected, Blackie is not doing anything wrong by trying to cut him off so to say that he is doing 'the same' is just not true.

    I think sometimes we go overboard justifying our preferences and ships.
    It's fine to ship Blondie x Pinkie just because Pinkie sounds more interesting or is better looking or even because we tend to forgive the inexcusable under the pretense of 'well, he did it because he loves him'.

    But the truth is, If Pinkie was an ugly old fart and did exactly the same, everybody would be calling him a disgusting creep.

    :) January 25, 2018 3:10 am

    Err...
    ... Harsh rejection and smirking is all you saw?
    Seukyung did something horrible that goes beyond this. His feelings for Minho don't excuse it. Hint: He did the opposite of the right thing when he found out that Hajun liked him.

    Both Seukyung and Hajun got confessed by someone they were not interested in.
    Only one of them gave an honest and clear answer to their proponent.
    Only one of them acted as a snake and used the other feelings without consideration.

    Hajun in no way can be blamed for not accepting Minho's affection, especially because he already liked somebody else. He did not 'run away' without giving an answer. He rejected Minho and wanted to move on with his life. There is no wrongdoing on his part.

    If you can't see the difference between Hajun and Seukyung character by the way they behaved so far, please just be careful out there with the Seukyungs in the world.

    youraedthiswrogn January 25, 2018 7:16 am
    Wow, wow, wow. Way to minimize dishonesty and cruelty. What you mean the only thing he has done wrong is harsh rejection of Hajun.? Smirking? Please, for the love of God. Everybody ships who they want but c... @Wow

    I don't hate on Hajun... You're saying i'm not "facing reality" and that i'm blaming him or whatever, but i actually like Hajun to a degree. However, I'm willing to acknowledge that Hajun just isn't a great person... He judgemental, catty and kind of bitchy in general. some people will say he's a tsundere, but that isn't right as he has a negative attitude both inside and outwardly, you have to fight him to be friends with him. He isn't secretly upset he has no friends or hiding a secret alter ego on the inside wishing he could get along with people, he's literally just a bitchy person that you have to tolerate until he likes you. Why are you immediately assuming i like Seukyung because "he's hot"? His looks aren't actually a factor for me here, i actually found Hajun's beauty more attractive than Seukyung's generic "college guy" look. From my perspective Minho is the most attractive with Hajun next and Seukyung last... You say he "manipulated Hajun's feelings after the confession", but that hasn't even been revealed yet... Neither of them remember the drunken night and we haven't been told what happened. Did he use his feelings? Yes. Did he use his feelings immediately following the confession? We don't know. He DID use Hajun mulriple times to irritate Minho, he'd treat Hajun a certain way in front of Minho so that when Hajun responded with love, Minho would see it and get mad. If Hajun knew about this he'd probably be upset. I don't feel like this was so much to hurt Hajun so much as to get Minho's attention. He wants Minho to notice him and knows he can by taking advantage of the situation. The guy Minho is in love with happens to be in love with him. You talk about Hajun's POV without acknowledging Seukyung's. He was confessed to by Hajun, but has no feelings towards him as he is already in love, he has no obligation to Hajun just because he has feelings for him, he let him down harshly. He is in love with Minho, who he knows has feelings for Hajun, this would probably lead to some resentment and would tip the scales from just being neutral towards Hajun to possibly not liking him. It isn't unusual for people to be catty when it comes to love and it's not like Seukyung is the only one who is... Hajun is being pretty catty to Minho because Minho keeps getting between him and Seukyung. The time when he said "you're in my way, leave my sight" and the time where he said "you used him, don't ever do it again" threateningly, even though that actually wasn't the case as Seukyung came to Minho in actuality, come to mind. Hajun is bitchy and has no issues with saying really hurtful things like "i'm disgusted that this happened with you. That i spent the night with you".

    youraedthiswrogn January 25, 2018 7:32 am
    I honestly fell in love with you over this comment. I hate the comment section on this manhwa because of all the people hating on Hajun over him being human and having normal human responses to stuff. Everyone ... 2minion

    I'd like to make it clear that i'm not dissing on Hajun by acknowledging factual shitty action he took within the manga... I like Hajun, i think he's funny, but as a person he's SUPER bitchy. You're right, he's not tsundere, he's just bitchy. A tsundere acts mean, but wants to connect, Hajun just acts mean, to everyone. He's nice to Seukyung BECAUSE he likes him. You say Minho was "following him around", but it was only because of the situation that Hajun got him into by drunkenly coming over to Minho's house and then running out... It was a situation they should've handled together, he knew Minho's family had seen them and chose "idc about this guy enough to clear things up with his family, even though i contributed to his family thinking their son/bro might be GAY all the sudden i'm going to tell him 'i'm disgusted that it was with you' and dip out". He's a total bitch, i'm sorry. Minho isn't "following him around", he needs his help... Until he falls for him and realizes Seukyung might have bad intentions towards Seukyung. That is another thing you fail to realize as well, he's jealous of course, but the reason he keeps getting between Seukyung and Hajun is to PROTECT Hajun. He knows Seukyung isn't in love with Hajun which makes his manipulation of Hajun's feelings confusing and worrying to Minho because 1. He's in love with Hajun and 2, he doesn't know what Seukyung wants.

    youraedthiswrogn January 25, 2018 7:44 am
    Err... ... Harsh rejection and smirking is all you saw? Seukyung did something horrible that goes beyond this. His feelings for Minho don't excuse it. Hint: He did the opposite of the right thing when he... @:)

    He... LITERALLY ran away... Are... Are you joking? He didn't respond. At all. Are we reading the same manga? What happened was: Minho, with Seukyung's help, got Hajun to come over under the condition that they never talk again. Hajun tries to leave as soon as the dinner is over, but Minho had been wanting to talk with Hajun only to realize he's being hated by Hajun for no reason (each time he tries to talk with Hajun he is told to leave him alone for no reason and when he confronts Hajun about being looked down on by him for seemingly no reason Hajun almost gives his reason) and ignored for a phone call from Seukyung. Minho gets angry because he knows that Hajun looks down on him for some reason, He literally sees Minho as less than him for some unknown reason(the two of them argue about this), takes Hajun's phone and throws it then kisses and confesses. Minho tells him to forgot the confession, then Hajun says he's leaving and LITERALLY runs out and decides to avoid him. The text following the confession is "do i have to answer him? I should avoid him till graduation", please read the manga.

    youraedthiswrogn January 25, 2018 8:33 am
    Listen, I never warmed to Blackie and I like Pinkie too because he's hot ( right now this is the only reason I like him to tell the truth). However this shit is not fair comparison at all. There is a reason why... @Fairness

    Okay, but my preference of Seukyung isn't due to his looks... Quit projecting on me... I prefer Seukyung because while he is manipulative, he does it out of love, he wants Minho's attention so he gets it by angering him. You're right about one thing, the two's cruelties aren't comparable. Seukyung treats Hajun the way he does because he wants Minho, Hajun treats Minho the way he does because he looks down on him. Seukyung does it out of love, Hajun does it out of bigotry. It's not like Seukyung was even trying to hurt Hajun either... He just wanted to act that way in front of Minho to keep his attention, notice how when it's just him and Hajun they get along really well? But when he's rejecting him he's harsh? What's the difference? Minho's there. He has feelings for Minho and knows Minho has feelings for Hajun, of course he wont shed a tear as he cruely rejects Hajun, but you know what he DID do? He went and talked to Hajun after and tells Minho that he thinks Hajun will be able to get over it soon. As far as "Hajun isn't doing anything wrong by trying to cut him off", you need to read this manga again... He is cutting him off because he looks down on him, not because of the sex... He doesn't want to associate with "that type of person". The main issue with Hajun cutting him off though is that Minho was coming to him for help, with a problem that Hajun CAUSED. Do you realize what happened to Minho? In a single night he was labled a gay by his family and was going to be in trouble if he couldn't get Hajun to come over, but thats just HALF of it, then his friends think he's gay because he keeps trying to get Hajun's help, but Hajun wont even TALK to him... Literally everyone ends up thinking he's gay, luckily he ends up actually falling for Hajun... Hajun came in, fucked up his family situation (suddenly gay son) and decided to leave with the sweet parting words of "i'm disgusted that it was with you" before letting all this shit just fall into place on Minho...

    2minion January 25, 2018 1:25 pm
    I'd like to make it clear that i'm not dissing on Hajun by acknowledging factual shitty action he took within the manga... I like Hajun, i think he's funny, but as a person he's SUPER bitchy. You're right, he's... youraedthiswrogn

    How do you know what I fail or don't fail to realise from Minho's POV when in my comment all I was talking about was from Hajun's POV. In this situation, I can relate with Hajun because I have had a similar situation happen to me where a person whom I dislike kept following me and trying to make a move on me to the point that I didn't want to go to uni because he was there. So I can understand Hajun and justify his behaviour.
    But when talking about Minho I have nothing bad to say except that maybe he is a bit of a dummy. He is a really straightforward character and that is a bit of a problem when it comes to Hajun. If he had been careful so that a rumour didn't start about him and Hajun and had wanted to start with friends maybe thing would have worked out differences between them. Now given that he is so straightforward it is understandable that he will take action when he is jealous and knowing that Pinkie is up to something I completely support Minho getting in the way and trying to protect Hajun.
    So please don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Minho, I love his character. But I can understand why Hajun is cold and mean to him and was just trying to justify it.
    I just don't like the sunbae.

    youraedthiswrogn January 25, 2018 10:45 pm
    How do you know what I fail or don't fail to realise from Minho's POV when in my comment all I was talking about was from Hajun's POV. In this situation, I can relate with Hajun because I have had a similar sit... 2minion

    He was careful. He initially tried to talk to Hajun face to face, but Hajun told him not to talk to him and it's later hinted that he doesn't want to talk to him because he looks down on Minho. The situation you describe that happened to you and the one in this manga aren't the same... Minho isn't "following him around to make a move on him", he was following him trying to have a simple talk so he could ask him a favor, that being to help solve his family issues which were in part Hajun's fault... He didn't develop feelings until later and he has yet to even ask him on a date or for anything other than "will you come to my house". The only move he made was the kiss, the following Hajun around was about his family issues.