Wow, honestly disappointing...

youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 7:59 pm

There are actually people trying to make it seem like Alex has been acting reasonably and basing this on that he is just in a friends with benefits(FWB) relationship with DG... Literally no one is angry at Alex for not going out of his way to be caring, we are angry at Alex for his lack of even a bare minimum standard of human decency. Do you see the difference? Most people are saying "i can't believe he did this!", holding him accountable for his many shitty interactions with DG rather than saying "i hate him because he didn't cuddle with him and make him breakfast after taking his virginity!", no one with normal reasoning skills expects him to be extra with DG, we're just acknowledging that he hasn't done the bare minimum. Foreplay and preparation are an important part of sex, for both sides, Alex skipped this so he could enter quicker. Now, while DOING foreplay isn't some "you're such a good person" indicator, NOT doing it (especially on a virgin) despite knowing you need to makes you a bad person. It is just an inherently bad thing to choose not to do. Same with the attitude/condescension, they are FWB, but that doesn't mean he is okay to talk to DG in the way he does. He literally gives DG the option to be his sex slave as an ultimatum, "drink now and agree to let me fuck you when and where i want or lose out on being fucked by me while i find someone else. Also, don't expect me to treat you like a boyfriend.". This is said so harshly and is just plain bad behavior, to act like it isn't is ignoring reality. Once again, the issue here isn't that he isn't treating DG like a boyfriend, it's that he isn't treating DG right even by the standards of having sex with a stranger...

Responses
    aetlama February 4, 2018 8:31 pm

    Do you thing evey single person in this world have good, pleasant sex? No. Sometimes your ass does not receive the love it deserves. That happens, more than you all think. Life is not a Bl fluffy manga. And i find that sex scene at least realistic. Alex doesn't give a fuck and DG is a virgin who doesn't knows how to act at that point. Really, it happens a lot.
    That is what I find interesting, that the author portrays a realistic sex scene, although not the most desirable, which coincides with the construction of characters.

    youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 8:46 pm
    Do you thing evey single person in this world have good, pleasant sex? No. Sometimes your ass does not receive the love it deserves. That happens, more than you all think. Life is not a Bl fluffy manga. And i ... aetlama

    You stating that there're shitty people out there that would treat people the way Alex treats DG isn't an argument to what i said... It doesn't change the fact that Alex was being an asshole. You just acknowledged the issue and placed it as an argument.

    youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 8:48 pm
    Do you thing evey single person in this world have good, pleasant sex? No. Sometimes your ass does not receive the love it deserves. That happens, more than you all think. Life is not a Bl fluffy manga. And i ... aetlama

    Also, what makes this sex scene more "realistic" than if Alex HADN'T been a total cunt? You do realize that the majority of sex happens with consent, right?

    youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 8:51 pm
    Do you thing evey single person in this world have good, pleasant sex? No. Sometimes your ass does not receive the love it deserves. That happens, more than you all think. Life is not a Bl fluffy manga. And i ... aetlama

    There're people who do all sorts of bad things, that doesn't make those instances any less bad... A lot of people kill, rape, abuse, etc and they are still placed on the news because, despite their frequency, they are still bad actions.

    aetlama February 4, 2018 8:57 pm

    Yeah. Consent doesn't mean that the other person take good care of you. That scene was consented. I think is really naif to pretend everyone to be kind and care about his partner. Maybe we both are talking based on really different life's experiences. You are lucky if you never had to go through something like that . I didn't mean to disqualify your oppinion, sorry for that.

    youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 9:02 pm
    Yeah. Consent doesn't mean that the other person take good care of you. That scene was consented. I think is really naif to pretend everyone to be kind and care about his partner. Maybe we both are talking base... aetlama

    Again, your point is irrelevant.

    youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 9:03 pm
    Yeah. Consent doesn't mean that the other person take good care of you. That scene was consented. I think is really naif to pretend everyone to be kind and care about his partner. Maybe we both are talking base... aetlama

    I realize that people don't always treat people right, but i will still call an asshole when i see one...

    youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 9:04 pm
    Yeah. Consent doesn't mean that the other person take good care of you. That scene was consented. I think is really naif to pretend everyone to be kind and care about his partner. Maybe we both are talking base... aetlama

    When did i "pretend all instances are pleasant", that is a strawman.

    aetlama February 4, 2018 9:08 pm

    Ok friend. Maybe we could discuss a little more when you grow up. Have a good life!

    youraedthiswrogn February 4, 2018 9:14 pm
    Ok friend. Maybe we could discuss a little more when you grow up. Have a good life! aetlama

    Lol, come back when you have anything worth arguing! I'll be right here ;^)

    Lady Me February 4, 2018 11:49 pm
    Lol, come back when you have anything worth arguing! I'll be right here ;^) youraedthiswrogn

    I think the consensus should be "Yes, Alex was an asshole" and "We accept this development in order to find out what happens next in the story, hoping Alex's deplorable behaviour meets its fair share of karma"
    (=・ω・=)

    youraedthiswrogn February 5, 2018 12:19 am
    I think the consensus should be "Yes, Alex was an asshole" and "We accept this development in order to find out what happens next in the story, hoping Alex's deplorable behaviour meets its fair share of karma" ... Lady Me

    Yes, exactly! Rather than "No, DG is doing it to himself by staying with Alex and somehow DG's choice to stay makes everything Alex has done reasonable because they're FWB". These comments are ridiculous and you can totally tell that they're letting Alex's hottness effect their opinion... It just drops all reasoning out the window, from that same perspective you can see that DG is also FWB with Alex, but doesn't treat him like shit so why should Alex being FWB with DG justify his shitty attitude? I'm looking forward to some karma and hopefully redemption.