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darkprincess32 April 9, 2018 6:26 am

I know Souma's been through a lot, but I never liked him. He so easily relies on and discards the main character, which he has every right to, but when he hurts him i almost start to cry every time, and Souma is always running away and blaming his problems on other people and purposely goes out of his way to make himself miserable. I know it's his way of "choosing his poison" since he deosn't want to risk being betrayed again, but he is too much of a coward and "pity magnet" in everything he does for me to respect his character at all.
The main character is always trying to make others happy but no one protects him or tries to make him happy, it just makes me want to cry.

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    Jkemma April 9, 2018 8:44 pm

    I don't think Hayato does anything extraordinary to try to help others. To his other friends he's just a normal friend; to Souma, he reached out to him because he saw Noboru in him, and wanted to protect him in a way he couldn't protect Noboru. And Souma, after hearing the back story, you can't blame him at all for wanting to distance himself from Hayato and meet with others that he actually knows are gay. For months he feels that Hayato has actually only been treating him gently in place of his ex friend, and that he doesn't really feel anything but pity for him, of course he's having trouble trusting him again. Even Hayato understood that, and it was only after speaking with Noboru that he could shed that guilt and really commit to making Souma understand how he feels. I also don't see how Souma blames his problems on other people? He doesn't blame Hayato, he simply can't believe him when he tells his feelings because of how he thinks they might not be genuine (and he has good reason to), he's never blamed Noboru or his other friends or anything...?

    Michelle April 10, 2018 5:32 am
    I don't think Hayato does anything extraordinary to try to help others. To his other friends he's just a normal friend; to Souma, he reached out to him because he saw Noboru in him, and wanted to protect him in... Jkemma

    I like how you understand souma’s character much better than most people, and i agree with your opinion ( ̄▽ ̄)

    darkprincess32 April 10, 2018 6:38 am
    I don't think Hayato does anything extraordinary to try to help others. To his other friends he's just a normal friend; to Souma, he reached out to him because he saw Noboru in him, and wanted to protect him in... Jkemma

    You're write, i was wrong about the "blaming others bit", said it in the heat of the moment, don't even know where that notion came from to be honest. But bro, I originally said Souma had every reason to want to leave the main character after that betrayal. But that doesn't change that he's going out of his way to hang with someone who makes him just as, if not more, uncomfortable than he is around the Hayato, thus hurting himself and making himself feel even more pitiful. I am really loyal so I forgive my friends for just about anything as long as they don't hurt me intentionally. I don't mind what kind of selfish reason they get close to me for because once I am committed to someone I see it through. It's much more painful to lose someone, so I can't really sympathize too deeply about the whole, "you didn't start to help me make friends (and eventually become lovers) for the right initial reasons" thing, I just need to know they care now because even if I push them away, I still care about them. He should at least properly talk and resolve things for his own sake so that he can get over Hayato properly.
    I tried to make it obvious that I have favoritism for Hayato so no matter his reasons, Imma still defend and fawn over my boy.

    darkprincess32 April 10, 2018 6:39 am

    Team Hayato! Looking at the dislikes I guess it's me against the wooorld!

    Spoilers April 22, 2018 6:36 am
    Team Hayato! Looking at the dislikes I guess it's me against the wooorld! darkprincess32

    Um actually more people support Hayato than don't. It just means that for once more people that DO support Souma are speaking up than those that support Hayato. Doesn't mean, automatically, that more people actually DO support Souma than Hayato. Thanks.

    Spoilers April 22, 2018 6:51 am
    You're write, i was wrong about the "blaming others bit", said it in the heat of the moment, don't even know where that notion came from to be honest. But bro, I originally said Souma had every reason to want t... darkprincess32

    And that's you. If fewer people acted like that I think the world would be a better place, personally. Because more people act like you do than don't. It's the same idea that imbues intent with magic and forces people to keep really toxic people around them. Sorry I will NEVER allow that to happen to me. My mental well being and those of my friends who would never hurt me intentionally or unintentionally are more important than those so called friends who WOULD. I include my supportive friends well being because I would be FOOLING myself if I thought my supportive friends weren't being hurt by the same person who hurt me. That would be cruel to my supportive friends. And that is most definitely someone I'm NOT. Thanks, again.

    Anonymous June 9, 2018 5:08 pm
    And that's you. If fewer people acted like that I think the world would be a better place, personally. Because more people act like you do than don't. It's the same idea that imbues intent with magic and forces... @Spoilers

    it’s not about supporting one character over another... it’s about supporting them both. you guys take sides so easily by pointing out both characters’ flaws that you end up taking things personally. at this point of time, souma was worrying over the possibility of hayato deluding himself into being in love with souma to make up for his past, not about hayato being a horrible douche like he was back then.

    even in real life, you’ll have relatives and friends who’ve made the same mistakes as hayato. if you’ve decided to cut them out of your life even after they have turned over a new leaf, that’s on you. but not everyone’s gonna do that.