I don't see why you hate him so much guys. Ever read a manga or comic here and you'll find...

It's not like we're not sure that he is suffering ... i mean sensei showed us what he was thinking and how he lived during the time shinobu was gone ... i'll be honest ... i wanted him to suffer too, but not forever ... if he realizes what he did wrong and apologizes for that, then it's something admireable ... it's great charecter development ... if shinobu forgives him i'll do the same ... there is no need to stress over it ^^

And i agree with you ... when a girl/boy is dumped or being used in other mangas most readers ignore that ...

I agree with this as well. Also I dont like it when seems toss other lovers aside or play with others. Personally I can't forgive him easily he intentionally set out to hurt him and he hurt other before. I dont think he deserves shinobu.

I think real character development he has to suffer and wake up and learn from heart break like he made the others do. Not saying he deserves to suffer forever but I think shinobu should move on and he learn to as well.

Just he slept with another guy when supposed to be dating shinobu then realizes he can't watch him suffer he suddenly misses him after he fucked another guy when shinobu transferred. This is one seme I can't forgive

its something called perspective, the world is ruled by it, depending of the side you are that whould be your good or bad

This means, the mangaka really did a good job crushing the readers feeling, my friends. I agree with you, but at the same time i believe most of the people feel connected to the emotion in the manga. Others, like me, who have been cheated, dont tolerate shit like this, especially after mangaka made other chapter from kov pov. The other just want this not to end up like the other happy fantasy yaoi, like at least please give us the most realistic story?
But we all know shinobu will be end up with kou, so.

I think he realized it, when he couldn't enjoy sex with others anymore and began to seek places unconsciously, where he spent time with shinobu

If that's how you see it, then i'm ok with that

I can see all your points working and even that one though it's a bit strange. You mean someone like him would do through that hell just because he can't have sex. If that was the case he would have done what many other manga semes do and rape the uke. But he's not and is just trying to get I'm back.

I think you misunderstood me ^^ ... i didn't mean that it was just for sex lol ... not at all ... i meant the part in the manga where he began to realize what he lost ... not just the sex, but also the time they spent together on those dates

I'm on shinobu's side ... i'll go with what he decides ... i mean there is no point in breaking your head over it

If this was one of those works, where a half-assed-apology was enough for forgiveness, then i would want the betrayed person end up with someone else too

I completely understand you but I made a typo on the other reply. I see what everyone's talking about and I may be over thinking it. I just don't like hearing people telling Kou to just die while fangirling/fanboying over couples that do far far worse. They don't realize that in other manga the seme breaks up with someone after having sex with the uke. That doesn't matter to them since they were most likely a girl and it seems many people here hate female reveals in yaoi because well there a girl. I just feel bad that people can only see one perspective. I 100% agree with you though.

I had to reply someone that wishing for someone to die was too much ... so i'm on your side on this and about the topic of girls being used and dumped ... you're right about that (tho some comment that they feel sorry ... most people don't care :/)