this comment is gonna start some shit also yes it was rape the first two times, but (keep in mind im fine with rape in BL and Yaoi as long as its justified) there was a justified reason not just "im horny fuck your feelings" they were in heat and forced to do the "im horny fuck your feelings"
I always start shit cause I smell it coming in droves from this read. lol I am ready. You are right. It's just that ukes get all the love, understanding, excuses and free passes for all the bullcrap they do. I stick up for the semes because the standards always differ and tip in favor of the ukes that are far from angels and perfect. This uke has many hangups. Is he bad? No. The seme has hangups. Is eh bad? No. Grey is my favorite color. lol If you get what I mean. I think that mature readers would decypher the content a little better. And when I say kids, "adults", aren't exempt. Kids as in maturity wise.
i prefer the uke, but its not like i dont see that shit coming from miles away ready to slap that son of a bitch. Like how the uke lead on the seme in What Lies At The End, for the first 30 chapters i wanted to slap that bitch outa existence, but if ya gonna say ya got maturity then ya shouldnt start shit, thats why i dont say im mature, i fucking love starting shit
Dude the update was 5 days ago, you missed the battle. Everyone's over on A Man Like You now.
Wait. Why you bringing Taemin into this? I love his spunky rude self.
At least you own it and see the uke isn't all roses and rainbows. lol I am mature because I can see both sides. Like criticize one for the same shit the other does. Don't call it rape for one aka the uke and not rape for the seme. People can prefer who they prefer but makes comments know they'll get comments back because we all have opinions.
╮(￣▽￣)╭ I guess we can all smear shit. lol
Oh no, I am done with that one. That uke is the first one I loathe and want dead or to end up with the second dude. Jinha DESERVES the freaking world and much better that that homophobic turd Siwon. I had it out with folks there too. But I stopped reading it because the uke is unredeemable to me. （￣へ￣）
Siwon said the homophobic things cause he was closeted also He had no clue Jinha was Jun until the day he was at the hospital and the next day he was almost raped soooo
Like it said in the manwha Taemin doesnt know how to handle affectiong, now while i did want to fucking kill him i did honestly like he character as it wasn't always "suck it up and hit harder" sometimes he had to think things through which is why it too 30+ episodes to tell him
Difference in opinion then. I loved Taemin and thought his actions made complete sense considering what he did know and what he didn't know
This is exactly why I stopped. Siwon had zero, zero growth. Took one step forward when he thought Jihna would die and took about ten back not too long after because of a stranger he didn't know. The absurd excuses he gets is unbelievable and unrealistic. Closeted doesn't give you a free pass on homophobia. He is such a wimp, selfish and believes everyone other than the only one who has protected him openly as well as love him. I guess being drunk and kissing on the same sex is a fluke too. Lol I wish they would kill him but that won't happen and if not I'll take him going with the psycho guy everyone seems to like over Jihna now. First time I am wholeheartedly rooting for the uke to go with the second crazy ass lead. They truly deserve each other.
As if that's an excuse to be homophobic. The whole series is absurd, Siwon is indefensible.
my guy thats like the first 15 chapters have you read any other part.
I'm with all want u said about dojin
And against u in all what u said about hyesung
It is just how he carries himself in this brutal world , u can't possibly blame a man for trying to be cautious no matter how fault his methods seem or how useless
U see , he isn't suppose to know that dojin is the good guy , he is an alpha to him , an alpha that happens to be inspired by having sex with him , an alpha that uses him as his experiences in this world (I believe from his parents ) made him think the world is a bloody place where he is only used , so I can't blame him , even his attitude , that may seem annoying , but it is a defense mechanism , although his methods are really useless and he lacks common sense , I can't blame the guy for trying
There is no rape , I mean , hyesung was under heat cycle , so he couldn't control it , I believe dojin was in a similar situation and he couldn't control it too , however , the last raw chapter was forced by dojin and I totally get him in that even , he is so helpless that he wants to cling to whatever method he has ,
Yes, unfortunately I've read it on Lezhin as well as all contributing to the comments here.
I can completely understand that someone might not be accepting of themselves being gay, and thus be self hating/homophobic, but understanding someone's behaviour doesn't mean you should excuse it, especially when it is discriminatory and hateful. And hey, it was Siwon who decided to get drunk and kiss the nearest man next to him (on a few occasions) so he's hardly suppressing his orientation. As many, including myself have said, Siwon is an abusive character who seems to get away with murder. That doesn't mean he is insecure about himself or a victim of Lu Xian (can't spell his name) on the occasions where he drugged him.
you are literally getting mad and trying to call someone homophobic because of Yaoi....
I'm gonna stop now
What? You seem to have misunderstood that this discussion is concerning one character who was homophobic and questioning why this is the case and how his behavior affects others. Maybe read over it again as your comment really was out of place.
dude the discussion was about character growth and that he was being one-dimensional with his, "I'll be homophobic because im secretly gay," character arc and thats why op stopped reading, because he had no development. I was trying to counter that arguement, your arguement is that its a bad series because he is homophobis, and ima say that thats wrong, and then i point out you got mad as an ad-hominem attack because im an asshole
What?
If you're going to say poor uke he got raped, well then you're going to have to say poor seme he got raped twice. I don't understand. Semes don't get affected? The hypocrites keep out doing themselves in these mangas/manhwas. Hysong has issues accepting who he is. Dojin has issues accepting who he wants. Though I think the uke is a big ass hypocrite. Dojin should kick him out the house and stop helping him. Let him figure it out. I mean he keeps trying to look out for him from scams and living in the street. Giving him a more than decent home too. And personally I would love for someone to feel so inspired by me he or she can create beautiful music. Being a muse is very far from being low. Like I said kids need to stop reading. ╮(￣▽￣)╭ Lol Give me a Dojin like that anyday! ლ(´ڡ`ლ)