Sighs

He was already beaten up for it. He has realized what he has done. What more do you want?

you never cheated? Most people dont cheat just "to hurt" his/her partners and cheating doesnt mean they dont love them anymore, people is weak and there's soooo many reason for cheating, but if you partner DOES love you and DIDN'T intend to hurt you purposely then why is it wrong to forgive them? everyone cheat THUS everyone get cheated on. Accept it and get over it

If you love someone you will never look for someone else.. like seriously... he didnt intend to hurt.. maybe.. but doing it so many times .. ugggghh.. it was not even driven by alcohol or drugs.. he was in his right mind...
The shittiest thing is that... the part where he said that he forgot (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ he was joking ... sht im annoyed as f right now...(╯°Д °)╯╧╧

Me : should i make you remember with my fist bish..

You didn't understand the character then. That " if you love someone you will never look for someone else" is very close minded. He never looked for another person to love, it was JUST sex. I am not saying g what he did is not wrong but the fact still stands HE NEVER FELL OUT OF LOVE.

I understand your point not always people cheat to hurt people & everyone makes mistakes, but in the end it does hurt & it's no wrong to forgive , but that doesn't mean cheating is good or correct because in some point it's kind of egoistic if you think about it i mean when you realize that it's really wrong what your doing & your conscious that it will hurt your partner & you keep doing it man you can't use as an excuse "i didn't mean to hurt you" , well anyway if you read the raws probably you saw that it's not so healthy their relationship & think it would have been better that the seme made the uke work for his forgiveness instead of beating him...

People think that those who cheat are going around "looking" for someone to cheat with, and maybe there are some as*holes like that but those dont really love their partners so they dont care, but most people cheat because they have such moments of weakness, and is not like your body is asking for new meat lol but maybe because you are unsatisfied with your life, because you have doubts, because there's something in that person that you like or "need" but that doesnt mean you need THAT person or that you love that person, because if you do then you just dump your current partner and go after the new one. I always believe that even though being cheated on is awful you have to at least notice that the one one being chosen is still you, I've cheated and I've been cheated on and I realised by the later that my partner still chose me in the end, every day, I dont know how important it is to people to be the "only one they f*ck" but to be the one they chose to be with and love every day is quite amazing, after all that person has no "obligation" to you and doesn't belong to you but he/she still expend their lives with you... but half an hour sex is still more relevant?

I've cheated and i've been cheated on too & both things felt awful, but what i mean it's of course the temptation it's powerful sometimes & when you cheat it's because you feel that something is missing or maybe because you get used to the attention of your partner, but what I wanted to make clear its that you can't jus go around cheating even though your in love & can excuse yourself with it wasn't my fault & always hoping for your partner to forgive you, I think in that case it's better to end things and make yourself clear, because yes nobody owns nobody but everyone has a limit & feelings, but of course if you want to be forgive you need to work for it & in the end if it's love you will realize what was wrong & learn from the mistake. No it's no more relevant but if it's still happen after you ale ready realize that it was a mistake & you still doing it & doing it that would be awful, because if you chose too be with somebody it's because you decided that he/she can be your other half.

i understand your perspective.but the uke could have been forgiven if it was a on time thing. do it once, get it out of your system over. when he repeatedly goes behind the seme's back, it is obvious he is looking for something more. it is moral to break up, for both their sakes. he should respect that the seme does not deserve such infidelity.
you cant stop yourself then leave your partner if you respect him. you are not worth his affection.
although from the seme's perspective it might seem cruel. it is the right thing to do
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Oh yeah i'm that anonymous, yes i know that that's what i meant when i said that at the end independently that nobody owns nobody everyone have their limit & feelings, & that if you keep doing it & doing you cant always hope for forgiveness, its better to end things & make yourself clear, i meant it too when i said that if you choose to be in a serious relationship with someone its because you really want to be with he/she... I said everything in the previous comment

But what is that more? Sorry if this rebuttal keeps going on circles but it's just that even if Natsuki kept on going back to the same person, they didn't spend nights together. It was just a "hi, hello, let's fuck, goodbye". Like the comments above courtesy of Ritsu, Natsuki goes back to Arata because all Ryouma was was a fuck buddy. To my understanding, the only instance that a relationship should cease is when you don't and/or can't love your partner anymore. Love meaning the emotion alone not the act of making love or sex.

In this case, they still both love each other and reality is, they don't want to let go of each other, thus they both endured.

but then, what about the seme's feeelings. should he keep on loving the uke, he wont change? when trust is broken......its like "i can forgive, but i cannot forget". and that something more...only the person who cheated would be able to answer that.
personally, i am not buoyant enough to learn that my partner cheated(once or repeatedly), forgive him and go back to the same equilibrium.
insecurity, pride, guilt, ....the love wont remain as honest. the status quo will fester to sadder relationship

But somehow its pretty toxic

But that's exactly the point of beating Natsuki. It's not like he got away with what he did, was forgiven and everything went back to normal. You in particular cannot maybe beat up the person who cheated on you which is why you cannot fathom to continue the relationship but Arata did, beaten him into a pulp ms was able to release all that anger and sear into Natsuki that he is wrong. Yet at the same time telling him that he, Arata, won't give up on him just because he cheated.

What in particular? Then getting back together is toxic because they will keep on doubting each other? Arata fears Natsuki will cheat again while Natsuki fears Arata will beat him up at any instance he does something wrong, even not relating to cheating.

Could be. It's possible but I don't think they will be that toxic and eventually tire each other out. After all, they have been together for so long. It's a one time thing.

Well love its powerful but nothing guarantees that's not going to happen again or maybe no who knows, in a relationship sadly its not just about love, respect, trust are important too & when the confidence it's broken its really delicate the situation, you can love someone with all your strength but at the end everyone have their limits & feelings....

Which I think it's only fair for both of them. The trauma of being cheated on and raped and almost beaten to death has the same effect on each other's trust.

A relationship is always two ways. If the other partner has given up then the other should, too. In this case they don't want to give up, exactly why Natsuki lied and Arata kept the relationship.

Yes at the end they decided to keep the relationship, it's obvious that what they did was incorrect (cheat & beat), but sometimes I think people confuse love with the fact of clinging to someone or something, whatever the reason is & cant tell that this is the case, but if you say it like that it still sounds unhealthy

It will be unhealthy if they will keep going back at it. That's one of the many causes that destroy a relationship or someone, not being able to move forward. For Natsuki and Arata, we don't know how they will be in the future since obviously the series ends. They have exhausted pretty much everything, Natsuki being able to taste someone else other than Arata and Arata exhausting all of that anger and frustration towards Natsuki, there's really nothing that they need to hold against each other anymore, add that they know each other so well already since middle school(?). Based on their circumstances alone, they can hold it out well, I think. If it were another case though, I don't think other couples can stay together like they will.

Well yeah of course if they move on its ok, but if they keep doing that it would be awful, what i just wanted to make clear its that the way they managed their actions was awful & there was another ways... & yeah we won't know because the series are over doe now...

But reading so many stories about cheating, especially how they were cheated on and how most comments say Natsuki is irredeemable, Arata exhausting it all out sounds/looks more helpful than keeping it all in and resorting to hate, blaming and giving up. Natsuki and Arata did not give up on each other because they know their love is still mutual. They just needed to expel everything out of their system to start anew without having to break up, which let's admit, rarely ever done in IRL. But when thinking about it, what Natsuki and Arata did worked and made sense, it's just that our society is very strict with what is acceptable or not.