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Well i never said that he shouldn't be forgiven & yeah the love that they have for each other was so powerful that they solutioned their problems & that worked for them & it's ok to forgive, but cheating its incorrect & beating too, not because just of the society says that, it's wrong because it hurts you & it's obvious because at the end it causes damages fiscally & emotionally it's something that you can't ignore...

Not just because of what society says*

I also never said that by accepting what Natsuki and Arata did to each other means it is correct. It just works, that's the inevitable truth. And based on the comments, the fact that they got back together is being somewhat ignored or scorned because most people don't want to think outside the box. I am not meaning to offend but it really is the case. It always black or white.

And I don't they have ignored what they both did. Well, let's see how Arata did. By addressing what they did is by apologizing to each other, and it doesn't have to be spoken, they could do it in some other way. Natsuki didn't ignore what he did, he accepted Arata's wrath, that was his apology. Let's see how Arata will address what he did. But moving forward does not equate to ignoring the issue.

Oh okay thanks for made clear your comment, now i understand you, when you said that the problem was that the society don't understand, i misunderstood because of the context, yeah I understand what you mean about that the people don't want to think outside of the box...
Yes of course moving forward doesn't mean that the problem was ignore...

Thanks for taking the time to understand as well. I always get misunderstood because I have a different perspective about the story more often than not and with the lack of vocabulary and my way with words I couldn't get the point across.

It's ok, its just that one comment you support the comment of Ritsu, and I think he/she didn't use the correct words, because Ritsu was somehow trying to say that cheating wasn't bad meanwhile you still love your partner & that it wasn't something to take seriously, but you were agree with the fact that it wasn't bad that Arata forgive Natsuki because they solved their problems in their own ways, but that doesn't mean that what they did was correct

Or am i wrong?

I read the last comment by Ritsu and what I agree with it is that it is also important to know the reason why the other person cheated, instead of just shoving everything away and end it. In other words, the classic "I don't need any other reason apart from you cheating on me" behavior/mentality. Fucking and making love are completely different in context though they are both acts of sexual intercourse. And for the part of the cheated, it is good to consider that you are not a fuck buddy but the person who your partner spends most of their time with, goes home to every night and makes love to, over someone they spend an emotionless 1-2 hour fuck/sex with, whether that fuck buddy is the same person every time or not.

So I don't think the comment ever hinted that cheating wasn't bad but its how you deal with cheating depends on what you prioritize in, value in and expect from your partner. Which if you insert Arata in this concept, it is exactly what he did, yeah he beat Natsuki up and still could've have broken up with him but he didn't. What you said about my point that Arata forgiving Natsuki wasn't bad was also correct.

Well of course its important to hear an explanation about why your partner was cheating, but that doesn't mean that the act was correctly justifiable, probably if the case were that i don't know the things between them were going wrong, but in this case Arata didn't do something bad to give Natsuki a reason to cheating on him, ok but what about the respect & about the difference between fuck & make love it's huge, i would understand if the were in an open relationship but Arata never agree something like that, it's a little bit egoist say something like "yeah i fuck with other people, but its not bad because at the end the one that I love you its you". Yes at the end the way you solve things depends in what you prioritize & i understand your point that you should think about it before you act & no just focus in the thing he/she did wrong & ignore the other things that did right (but i think love shouldn't be used as an excuse for something bad)

Hearing the reason behind it doesn't mean you will or should forgive them right away. For Arata and Natsuki's case, it wasn't a mutual arrangement for Arata that they would be in an open relationship. That's why what Natsuki did was wrong, not only he lied and kept it as a secret, they are in an exclusive relationship. After getting beaten up, why did Arata stay in the relationship? It's because he prioritized their emotional connection and love over a carnal and physical temptation Natsuki was not able to fight and stop on his own.

Again the point is being misunderstood, it doesn't mean that you are able to accept and forgive your partner for cheating means what they did is not wrong/bad. The point that was presented was that of the cheated. You being cheated and finding what is more important in the relationship, the sex or the love, and finding in yourself to forgive. The statement you presented was that of the cheater, that statement is not asking for forgiveness and being, like you said, an egoist. If a cheater says that, fuck them and let them burn in hell. That's being arrogant, period.

Ritsu and I's point is from the perspective of the cheated ALONE. They get to decide whether they can pardon their partner or not but the cheater can never call that kind of shots because they are suppose to apologize and repent. What they can only do is explain their side and be sincere about it, the judgement lies with the cheated.

Sorry it's been a long hehe, Omg that's what i was talking about all this time if you put it like that obviously make sense, that's what i meant there weren't used the correct words & make a big misunderstood. I don't know if Ritsu really meant that but the way you said sounds complete different...