Aah...Oono said no. Like, he literally said this two lettered word 'no.'
No he didn't.
That's an SFX, not dialogue. He stayed silent the entire time and then kicked him off after he'd been fucked for a bit.
I looked back, there is actual dialogue where he says no, but not to the sex. On page 27 he says "no, that's not", but here he is just denying that he's was thinking about Kureshima, you have to read pg 26 for context. On page 28 he says no, but if you look, his face is flushed and it's because Kureshima is touching his nipple, in other words he's feeling good, but embarrassed because it's Kureshima. So it was a sex moan. If you think either of these were protests for Kureshima to stop, will you look at them and tell me why?
That is the problem with the word "no" too, it doesn't mean "stop" in EVERY context, its a common thing to say during sex similar to how people says "yes" a lot too. I think the context here made it clear the "no" was a moan? He said it when his nipple was teased. As far as the SFX, i feel like the translator was just looking at the pictures and thought it was rape so they threw a rape warning and a rapey SFX in there.
I think the fact he never outright even consented to it, let alone his body language outright was refusing kureshima, and then he kicked him is enough justification it was rape. Kureshima, whether it was love, lust, or a power move, raped oono and I honestly don’t think that’s debatable
If someone is visibly scared to death of being raped, the requirement of NO is not even a question.
He is totally scared to death when he's being raped. It's clear in the scenes... Many people freeze when they're being raped because they're so scared. That's what has happened to him.
Also Chapter 3 page 29 you can clearly see him shouting No!
And he says that Kureshima scares me.
Maybe that is, what happened, but from Oono's dialogue at the end of ch 4 when he says he wanted Kureshima even before the sex and when he says it actually felt good it made me think otherwise. To be clear, i'm just getting across what i think, it's set for me now. I had suspicions it wasn't rape and ch 4 did it for me, but that won't be the case for everyone. I'm sorry if i offend you? Not trying to.
That is the SFX i mentioned, it's not dialogue, it's a sound effect that the translator puts in there at their will. Like using "schlop, schlop" on ch 3, pg 30 to indicate the sound of Kureshima's dick going in and out. I think the translator saw the pages and thought it was rape so they put in a rape warning and the rapey SFX "noooo!" in that particular page to push their interpretation.
My argument is that he consented emotionally, like he felt awkward about it, but was okay with it to an extent once Kureshima got him horny with the dirty talk. Not sure where people get the idea that consent has to be spoken aloud, that it's a sentence, but it's not the case. Saying it aloud is just the easiest way to verify. If someone takes you to court for rape and they say they "didn't say yes", they'll be asked "well, did you say no/stop or resist and make it known you didn't consent?", if the answer to that question is no then the guy is off free because it's not on him to read your mind. Sex is very nuanced. Consent is an emotion, the sentence "i consent to this" is a means of conveying that emotion. I believe Oono wasn't feeling raped there, but shocked and that he kicked Kureshima because he was confused about Kureshima's intentions behind the sex and factually first time anal hurts. My argument is that he consented wordlessly until his confusion/the pain got him out of the mood and he kicked him off. Oono literally says Kureshima is making him feel horny on ch 3 pg 25 when he says "i'm starting to feel the same as back then".
Oh, and when he says "Kureshima scares me, it comes across as not a literal interpretation, but as a nuanced thought that he meant because Kureshima is a guy who is paying him attention and he doesn't know why. It seemed pretty obvious to me? He says "i don't understand Kureshima, he scares me". Ch 3, pg 30. He's literally saying he doesn't understand why Kureshima is interacting and now even having sex with him and it scares him, this actually goes into what i said in my comment. Oono kicked Kureshima off because he's not sure how Kureshima feels about him. He gets mad at Kureshima in ch 4 when he acts like nothing happened because it makes him think Kureshima has just been messing with him.
Where specifically does his body language say he's being raped? Kureshima never uses physical force, Oono doesn't resist.
He was visibly worried scared, even KICKED kureshima, and was entered with brute force causing bleeding. Kureshima forced into him without even any preparation or trying to even pay attention to Oono’s facial and body expressions. I don’t know why this is even being debated
Okay, I see what you are trying to say, nuanced consent is a thing between people with an already established sexual relationship and know each other’s body language and what they want out of a relationship. Oono bled not because it was his “first time” it was because he was given no or little preparation and was given forced entrance by kureshima who, if he was actually considering Oonos visible feelings of resistance and confusion, (which confusion NOT mean it’s consensual), would have stopped. Kureshima raped oono, and didn’t even give room for Oono to respond to his actions, whether Oono liked it in the afterthough or not, Kureshima raped Oono, because he did not even consider Oonos feelings in the situation.
Like dude, I loved this story, and I want to enjoy it, but I’m not going to frivolously justify rape just to enjoy it. It’s rape, I’m not going to stop you from reading it, but just be aware, this manga romanticizes rape
He was visibly something, not sure what. You're stating it was fear/worry like it's factual, but i think it is more likely just shock at the suddenness. As far as the bleeding, that is common your first time. Pain is common too. You'll for sure be sore. The kick is interesting, because ch 4 implies he let Kureshima fuck him for a little bit, THEN he kicked him off. I think he kicked him off because he wasn't sure about Kureshima's feelings and the sex was painful, as first times are.
You don't know that he wasn't prepared, it doesn't show how long Kureshima was fingering Oono, it just shows him pull his fingers out and it's super wet down there. I'd argue that he DID prepare him. I don't agree that nuanced consent is only between people who know each other already, what about sex apps that lead to spontaneous hotel sex? You think they all ask "do you consent"? There're plenty of scenarios, again, sex is nuanced. As far as Kureshima "not considering his visual expressions", why do you think he started talking dirty to Oono? It was to get him in the mood rather than stressing about it.
Don't assume anything right away, the end shows Oono's thoughts do a 180. The beginning makes it look like he's upset because of the SEX, but he's actually upset because he isn't sure why Kureshima did it and thinks he's messing with him. I'd also like to point out that it was his 1st time, anal is very difficult the 1st time and if you do some research, it's actually common to bleed a little and you'll for sure be sore. He's mad because he isn't sure WHY Kureshima had sex with him and he's still in pain from the sex so he's describing his symptoms. He gets angry because he isn't sure WHY Kureshima had sex with him, then Kureshima comes in treating him normal and he takes this as that Kureshima was just making fun of him. At the end he says himself that he was in denial and accepts that he's in love, he says that he's wanted Kureshima for a while even before the sex as he's had delusions about him and that the sex actually felt good despite the pain and he says that he intended to blame the sex on Kureshima. Hence the dialogue at the beginning where he blames Kureshima for continuing even though he was in pain despite Oono never having conveyed that in literally any way to Kureshima. This means ch 3 WASN'T rape! He was just shocked. He didn't understand Kureshima's intentions and his 1st time hurt so he kicked Kureshima off of him and Kureshima left thinking they'd had normal sex up until Oono kicked him off. Kureshima treats him normally after because from his PoV, nothing DID happen. He convinced his crush to masturbate for him, got him horny and then swept him along into sex. As far as he was concerned, Oono didn't resist or tell him to stop till the kick, so from his PoV it just looks like Oono might've gotten cold feet and kicked him off. So he heads home happy that things went relatively well and comes to school the next day treating him normally only to see Oono is still upset so he tries to joke around, which pisses Oono off because he thinks the sex was just Kureshima making fun of him since he's acting like nothing happened.