Read my comment below before this one.

I actually put all that effort into responding to you BECAUSE i care what you have to say and how i should respond. It wasn't irrelevant, imo.

I read through what you said (also, apologies for such a cluttered response earlier lmao it was way longer than I thought It'd be) and again, I just really disagree. I can't seem to see your POV with this topic, sorry. We clearly interpreted the chapters in different ways. Just to clarify, I don't feel like any of us are "correct" or something with our assumptions lmaooo after all, we're reading into a sex scene in a kinda ok-i-guess manga. The manga doesnt really get better or worse after having read the raws lmao. But anyway, you seem to have responded to three of my points and then gone into a long-winded bit about how he feels about the seme. Firstly, the fact that it was SFX doesnt really mean anything. Yeah, sfx is normally pretty pointless since its just sound effects, stuff like schlick and shlorp etc, but i cant think of a time where i've heard NO being used as a sound effect. Probably because no sound sounds like NO and nobody would use it as a sound effect. I saw a comnent from a translator saying that the fact that it's sfx doesnt make it any less relevant, and then both of you (i think?) talked about what the SFX actually says. As anonymous said, it really does say no in the japanese version. In a pretty violent way, too. He appears to shout no in katakana, with an accent on each letter, which is normally used to signify shouting or screaming in these kinds of contexts. Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to translate these kinds of things into english, which is probably where the misunderstanding has occured. No, the translators didnt choose to use NO instead of ahh~ or something, it just literally says no, or more accurately, NOOOOOOO!.
Next you go on to talk about how he *might've* felt during the sex based on what he said days later. So in that sense, aren't you also projecting what you want onto him? Its not like i WANT it to be rape, that'd be kinda sick, but i'm also not gonna ignore or deny the fact that he didn't want to have sex with the seme, thus leading to the conclusion that it was rape. I've seen in so many games, manga, novels and drama CD's, situations where the uke loves the seme, even if he doesn't realise it at first, and desires the seme. In response, the seme will (in a lot of cases) force himself onto the uke, while thinking he's right in doing so and the uke actually enjoys and wants the dick. In reality, although the uke might've wanted to sleep with the seme in some cases, if he doesn't want to at that moment in time for whatever reason, then it's rape. You don't seem to have responded to the point I made about the heavy petting so i'll repeat it: Yes, he was ok with being touched and all that, but i (and a lot of other people) don't think he was ok with taking the big ol' D. Either due to his reactions during the scene or after it in chapter 4. The fact that he likes the seme doesn't make his actions any less severe. This shit happens IRL, you could literally apply the same logic to quite a few rape cases. Person likes the perp, perp forces themself on the victim, victim feels confused for ages cause they like the perp and it didnt feel *too* awful, etc etc. But at the end of the day, it was still rape. Have you ever seen like, mind-break doujins? In the start it's almost always something along the lines of "person gets kidnapped or smth, gets raped, starts to enjoy it and then loses their mind because it feels so good". Does the fact that they feel good change the fact that it's rape? No. You could apply that to these rapey yaoi plotlines. Yes, he likes the seme. Yes, he says it felt good later on. But i mean, of course it would, to some degree anyway. His prostate is being stimulated. The guy he likes is doing it. BUT, he didnt ask him to do it, suggest that he does it, or actively even shows that he wants his dick at that moment in time.
And yes, i know its common to bleed after anal. Also pretty common to get stomach aches if someone cums inside, hemorrhoids, etc. My point was that he was still bleeding a DAY after it all happened. That isnt as common. Since, yk, clotting is a thing that stops you from bleeding between a few minutes and an hour after you get injured, depending on the size of the injury. Unless he's been shitting or playing with his asshole every hour since he was raped, itd be pretty weird for him to still be bleeding approx 15~20 hours after it happened. After their first time, people will usually see blood in the morning or a few hours after, but it's normally dried blood from an anal tear. If you're still bleeding almost a day after sex, i'd say it's time to be a little worried about your ass. Although it's not uncommon for the tears to be there for days, it is for you to still be bleeding a day/days later.
Other than that, you just made a long point on how the uke likes the seme and feels worried about what happened. I already acknowledged that the uke likes the seme so i'm not really sure how that arguement fits with what I said, but ok. You do you.

If you don't convey you do or don't want it then it's classed as rape since there is no consent. It seems like rape because the only person that seemed to want anything out of what was going on was Kureshima, hence why he pushed himself on Oono.
You're overthinking the whole lawyer thing, it was meant to be an insult in the context of you fighting a losing case, i'll take it back if the mangaka states that it wasn't rape but otherwise I still believe it was rape.
Also I have giving your points counter arguments and it seems like you just feel victimised that your opinion isn't the majority but going along with what So says your opinion being that it wasn't rape and how you're portraying your views on why it isn't rape makes myself, So and probably other people reading this thread uncomfortable as it seems like you're just trying too hard to justify something that in the majorities opinion is rape.
Like So said, I also am not saying you're a rapist but what you're saying is coming out a lot like what one would say.
Also something So and you mentioned was that he was feeling like he liked it during sex. That doesn't mean he wanted to have sex though. Not gonna lie but sex is actually really enjoyable, especially when you're being stimulated in your private areas. Just because Oono says he liked it at the end of chapter 4 (meaning that yes he liked it during the time Kureshima and Oono had sex) but just because he liked it doesn't mean he wanted to have sex, it just means that the sex did feel good to him despite how rough it was. This then leads you to believe that when he talks about how he was bleeding it's not just because he's saying it was rough sex, he's also thinking "how dare this guy" which is actually what he says later to refer to Kureshima pretending he didn't fuck Oono's ass raw. However from interpretation Oono refering to his ass still bleeding is Oono conveying "how dare this guy" before he even saw Kureshima that day because he didn't want to have sex and Oono being pounded so hard that he's still bleeding really upset Oono not just because 'it hurts' but because Oono didn't want to have sex and we can say he didn't want it that rough due to how he mentioned his ass was still bleeding.

Reference (13 Reasons why with SPOILERS): I'd also like you to watch 13 reasons why and tell me whether Bryce raped Hannah baker or not. Both seasons if you please, but skip to episode 12 of season 1 if you haven't watched it already (or want to skip to the part 41:39 but you'll miss a lot of the tape) because Hannah's situation is a lot like this situation. She didn't say no, she didn't push him off her, she made noises and eventually plummets into shock but she didn't want it (Don't mind the part where she tells the school counsellor just focus on when she tells the tape about Bryce). P.s. If you've watched both season 1 and 2, does the last episode of season 2 have rape in it also? or because the guy didn't show he didn't want it or didn't say no, he wanted it?
If you do think both characters mentioned where raped can you at least represent a bit of both argument to whether it is rape or not in this manga. It's not contradictory it's just stating two sides of the argument. (So you feel like I am at least trying to understand your opinion)

My opinion is still that Oono was raped but as the manga is romanticising rape Kureshima won't be punished as Oono likes Kureshima and therefore will forgive Kureshima for forcing himself on Oono at that time without knowing what Oono wanted.
Oh and when people get stimulated in certain areas (aka their cock, ass, vagina, nipples, etc) they find their bodies unable to move in the way they want them too as their bodies are overcome with pleasure (tying in with Oono saying he liked the sex) so it is harder to resist and how you keep saying Oono was talked into it really does irritate me as Oono's hand was forced into wanking himself off in front of Kureshima because he didn't want to lose him friend (Oono didn't want to be alone again so no he was not talked into it, he was forced to do it otherwise he knew he would've been alone again) from Oono's perspective Kureshima only hung around Oono to know more about Oono's ability of no hands masterbation so of course he felt so much pressure to do it that in theory he was forced. What happened next also isn't talked into either as Oono himself is like 'wait what' when Kureshima describes himself doing those things to Oono.
Like I mentioned in my last comment which you didn't seem acknowledge me putting - or agree with - is that until the 'mangaka' says it is rape or isn't then the manga is 'open to interpretation' so yes it may very well turn out not to be rape but from the majorities opinion it looks a lot like rape.

...Well I typed out a big reply but I can't be asked to rewrite it. Here's the shorter version. (This was meant to be shortened but I got carried away (￣∇￣"))
You and So mentioned about how Oono says he liked the sex. However just because you like sex doesn't mean you wanted sex. News flash sex is actually really good and when stimulated in your private areas your body can also make it very difficult to resist as you're overcome with pleasure but that doesn't mean that you wanted to have sex or you wanted sex to start up to begin with. Furthermore just because he realised a while later that he actually liked the sex doesn't mean he actually wanted to have sex.
He just now knows that he might actually like anal which obviously he's been in denial about because he's believed he was heterosexual his whole life and because his secret 'no hands masturbation' was found out by a curious guy - who he seems to like now - He's revealing to us that he might be gay instead. Although as he has been able to no hands masturbate to females I think he might just be bisexual but to think your whole life that you're straight only to fucking in the ass and it feel good, he'd clearly be in denial about it feeling good because he doesn't want to believe his is gay/bisexual.

A comment I have for the translation, you've done some research i'm guessing into the translation but translators do a damn good job of translating and no offence but they know how to translate things a lot better then someone who's just google translated or looked up several pages of the language (I'm using this as an example as translators have a lot of experience translating compared to you saying you've 'looked it up'/ 'checked the Japanese lettering'). I do understand that maybe this translator put the no in because they presume it's a rape scene however the original languages word will be something similar to the translation they put. So it could've been 'don't' or it could've be 'ahhh~' like you've suggested but the translator will put what they believe is the best/right translation which will be very similar to what the original languages word says.

Reference (13 reasons why SPOILERS)
If you watched this or you watch episode 12 all the way through or from 41:39 can you tell me whether you think Bryce Walker (the guy) raped Hannah Baker (the girl)?
She didn't say no, she didn't resist, she eventually goes into shock and just blanks but is she actually being raped? If you've happened to watch both season the last episode of season 2, does that have a rape scene in it? The guy doesn't say no and he doesn't resist. Just a bit of foul play right?
I'm referencing these two characters as they both seem to be raped from my perspective despite not saying no but they clearly didn't want it. But if you think they weren't raped then okay...
And Oono yes his ass was hurting but it's not normal to cry during sex (I understand it happens to some people but it's rare - keep reading for the none rare reason/ common reasons people cry), it is when the sex is unwanted or hurts but another fact we find out in the beginning of chapter 4 is that Oono tried to kick Kureshima off so he didn't want it anymore (whether he did or didn't to begin with) I presume he didn't, he clearly didn't want sex when he kicked Kureshima, evidently leaving the painful looking bruise on Kureshima.
Oono could've gone into shock because of the situation as it happened so quick and when he came to he kicked Kureshima. We don't know if Kureshima stopped though and knowing how he started I'm pretty sure he would've just pounded into Oono harder - to repay the pain Oono just inflicted on Kureshimsa.

You're also overthinking the whole lawyer thing, it was meant as a insult in the context that you're fighting a losing case, however if the mangaka says it's not a rape scene then I'll take back my claim.
Also another point So makes is that the way you're trying to get across your point of the scene not being rape comes across as if you're saying it from a perspective of a rapist.
Just like So said though, I'm not saying you're a rapist either, it's just the way you're trying to convey your opinion is making it sound like it's something a rapist would say in defence and I think that's why myself and a lot of other people are getting really irritated and uncomfortable with your opinion, especially since you aren't even trying to look at it as if it was rape and at least look from both perspectives like how I was doing in my last comment to show you that I was at least trying to understand your perspective.
My points weren't meant to be contradictory I was just trying to give points for both perspectives and make you feel like I was listening and understanding your points. I even made it a point to say I acknowledge that you believe it isn't rape. However most of your last comment/ comment above is just saying that my points are contradictory and the other half is being upset about me calling you childish (which is name calling) due to how you felt I was naming calling you with lawyer (that's the part I found childish as I thought you where upset by being called a lawyer, no joke (￣∇￣")). But you just proved being childish by implying that I'm the childish one by capitalising 'I'M'. It's true I'm childish but the fact that I bothered to read your comments and acknowledge your argument which you don't seem to have done in my second comment shows otherwise. I'm definitely still childish though hence why's I've commented again. Childish and stubborn because I'd like my opinion to be acknowledged too. You don't have to agree you just have to at least say you understand my point and then contradict it after stating that.

My opinion, still, is that Oono was raped but the only way to know for certain is if the mangaka says it's a rape scene, though the manga or via some form of communication with them. Otherwise the scene is still open to interpretation.

...Well I typed out a big reply but I can't be asked to rewrite it. Here's the shorter version. (This was meant to be shortened but I got carried away (￣∇￣"))
You and So mentioned about how Oono says he liked the sex. However just because you like sex doesn't mean you wanted sex. News flash sex is actually really good and when stimulated in your private areas your body can also make it very difficult to resist as you're overcome with pleasure but that doesn't mean that you wanted to have sex or you wanted sex to start up to begin with. Furthermore just because he realised a while later that he actually liked the sex doesn't mean he actually wanted to have sex.
He just now knows that he might actually like anal which obviously he's been in denial about because he's believed he was heterosexual his whole life and because his secret 'no hands masturbation' was found out by a curious guy - who he seems to like now - He's revealing to us that he might be gay instead. Although as he has been able to no hands masturbate to females I think he might just be bisexual but to think your whole life that you're straight only to fucking in the ass and it feel good, he'd clearly be in denial about it feeling good because he doesn't want to believe his is gay/bisexual.

A comment I have for the translation, you've done some research i'm guessing into the translation but translators do a damn good job of translating and no offence but they know how to translate things a lot better then someone who's just google translated or looked up several pages of the language (I'm using this as an example as translators have a lot of experience translating compared to you saying you've 'looked it up'/ 'checked the Japanese lettering'). I do understand that maybe this translator put the no in because they presume it's a rape scene however the original languages word will be something similar to the translation they put. So it could've been 'don't' or it could've be 'ahhh~' like you've suggested but the translator will put what they believe is the best/right translation which will be very similar to what the original languages word says.

Reference (13 reasons why SPOILERS)
If you watched this or you watch episode 12 all the way through or from 41:39 can you tell me whether you think Bryce Walker (the guy) raped Hannah Baker (the girl)?
She didn't say no, she didn't resist, she eventually goes into shock and just blanks but is she actually being raped? If you've happened to watch both season the last episode of season 2, does that have a rape scene in it? The guy doesn't say no and he doesn't resist. Just a bit of foul play right?
I'm referencing these two characters as they both seem to be raped from my perspective despite not saying no but they clearly didn't want it. But if you think they weren't raped then okay...
And Oono yes his ass was hurting but it's not normal to cry during sex (I understand it happens to some people but it's rare - keep reading for the none rare reason/ common reasons people cry), it is when the sex is unwanted or hurts but another fact we find out in the beginning of chapter 4 is that Oono tried to kick Kureshima off so he didn't want it anymore (whether he did or didn't to begin with) I presume he didn't, he clearly didn't want sex when he kicked Kureshima, evidently leaving the painful looking bruise on Kureshima.
Oono could've gone into shock because of the situation as it happened so quick and when he came to he kicked Kureshima. We don't know if Kureshima stopped though and knowing how he started I'm pretty sure he would've just pounded into Oono harder - to repay the pain Oono just inflicted on Kureshimsa.

You're also overthinking the whole lawyer thing, it was meant as a insult in the context that you're fighting a losing case, however if the mangaka says it's not a rape scene then I'll take back my claim.
Also another point So makes is that the way you're trying to get across your point of the scene not being rape comes across as if you're saying it from a perspective of a rapist.
Just like So said though, I'm not saying you're a rapist either, it's just the way you're trying to convey your opinion is making it sound like it's something a rapist would say in defence and I think that's why myself and a lot of other people are getting really irritated and uncomfortable with your opinion, especially since you aren't even trying to look at it as if it was rape and at least look from both perspectives like how I was doing in my last comment to show you that I was at least trying to understand your perspective.
My points weren't meant to be contradictory I was just trying to give points for both perspectives and make you feel like I was listening and understanding your points. I even made it a point to say I acknowledge that you believe it isn't rape. However most of your last comment/ comment above is just saying that my points are contradictory and the other half is being upset about me calling you childish (which is name calling) due to how you felt I was naming calling you with lawyer (that's the part I found childish as I thought you where upset by being called a lawyer, no joke (￣∇￣")). But you just proved being childish by implying that I'm the childish one by capitalising 'I'M'. It's true I'm childish but the fact that I bothered to read your comments and acknowledge your argument which you don't seem to have done in my second comment shows otherwise. I'm definitely still childish though hence why's I've commented again. Childish and stubborn because I'd like my opinion to be acknowledged too. You don't have to agree you just have to at least say you understand my point and then contradict it after stating that.

My opinion, still, is that Oono was raped but the only way to know for certain is if the mangaka says it's a rape scene, though the manga or via some form of communication with them. Otherwise the scene is still open to interpretation.

Sorry I'm spammed the same reply a few times but it's not coming up when I click on this topic (￣∇￣")

I'm going to type ONE reply to you, it's not your fault, but i've addressed this blatant misinterpretation of my argument enough that it's like go read my other comments. My argument wasn't "it felt good so it wasn't rape", for you to have understood that from what i said you had to have been ignoring bits of what i said. I pointed out that Oono says BOTH that "i yearned to be touched again" (He wanted Kureshima to touch him, it was consensual) and "reality was much better than delusion" (despite him saying it was painful at the beginning of ch 4, he's saying here at the end of ch 4 that it was only at most a half truth, it actually felt really good). He BOTH wanted it AND acknowledges that he was lying about it just being painful. Oono says he "pretended not to notice" and "i intended to blame him", he's saying he was in denial when he was ACTING like the sex ONLY made him upset. It wasn't the sex that upset him, it was the meaning BEHIND the sex, that he's in love with Kureshima. He was just focusing that on the sex and ignoring what was really upsetting him. For great detail into my actual argument, read my comment titled "ch 3 and 4 are about making Oono face his denial -please read it ALL before replying-", this is where i go into dialogue step by step and explain, based on the dialogue, why Oono was saying what he did and Kureshima's position in all of this.

Dude, my replies weren't coming up, had to flip through to topics to find this post and reply to this reply of yours cause it wasn't coming up.
You have your opinion, have it. I'm giving counter arguments and you literally just keep bringing up that Oono says later in the manga that he liked it. Not that he wanted it. He was in denial about liking it but we never actually know if he wanted the sex at the end of chapter 3 when it happens, it's never justified that what happened at the end of chapter 3 was because of his feelings. He just said he liked it, doesn't mean he actually wanted it.
If you bothered to actually read my arguments you could give me some other counter arguments but the fact that you've had to continuously make several posts to try and prove your point isn't going to make people side with you.
I'm personally not convinced at all by your arguments and you keep repeating the same ones when I've made points against them which you don't even acknowledge. Plus the fact that you have to point people to other posts says you're just overthinking this way too much.
Stop spamming your opinion on the topics, you've stated your point enough and as you've seen people are just thinking you're trolling and I am thinking you probably are too. It's not like you're actually reading or going to read anyone else's points thoroughly as you've shown by not addressing any of my points and telling me to look on another post. Yes I could look on that but why make more posts if you wanted others to look at the other one?
Honestly, it seems like you care too much about this because you've been in Kureshima's position. Give yourself some space from this thread and maybe you won't be so annoyed at others testing your opinion. Mute all the comments from this thread and just leave your opinion said and done. I myself won't comment again because the last comment I make is the only thing that needs to be said.
ANYWAYS:
JUST READ THIS COMMENT: If the mangaka says it's a rape scene then it's a rape scene.

1. I HAVEN'T JUST BEEN SAYING "he liked it", I'VE BEEN SAYING HE SAYS HIMSELF THAT HE LIKED ANNNNNDDDD WANTED IT! I JUST WENT OVER THIS IN MY LAST RESPONSE!!! THE ONE YOU'RE RESPONDING TO HERE! HE SAYS "i yearned to be touched again" (he WANTED KURESHIMA TO TOUCH HIM) AND "reality was much better than delusion" (THIIIISSSS IS THE PART WHERE HE SAID IT FELT GOOD, THE OTHER PART WAS HIM SAYING HE WANTED IT)! You're either not reading what i say or not understanding.

2. The mangaka never said it's a rape scene, the rape warning isn't part of the manga, look at the raws... It was a page put there by the translator... You know so little that it's pointless to argue.

If the magaka says it's a rape scene or not via social media or whatever. That's that point. I'm going to leave you alone now so you don't misunderstand again.

I'm sorry, i just noticed this, but i no longer have the energy to continue this. We'll just agree to disagree. I've went over most of what you just said, but in responses to other people and it'd take me forever to type that all back up. if you're interested in an answer to this^ you can check my last like 3 comments and the... Conversations... Underneath them. -mean that in a friendly way, i'm just emotionally/mentally worn out-