Please tell me what where those "not tears" falling from his eyes from page 28-33 of chapter 3. Lol I bet you're the type of person to say rape victims "asked for it"
THANK YOU. A big applause, human! (I'm not being sarcastic when I said human, I just don't want ti trigger anyone)
Wait a sec. Did you just ccompare reality with a entirely different world? Dude, seriously? This is a fictional story. The fact that you even thought if rl while reading this just........ I don't know how you read books. Do you just compare them all with rl? Seriously? If what you said had to be taken into account, then that means every single thing that happen in yaoi SHOULD happen in rl too. Like, uke falling for seme because he was kind, seme falling for uke because he's nice, magical swords, dragons, fairy dust, pixies... Unbelievable!
Oh, okay.
I'm actually not, but i can tell you won't hear anything i say with all that ideology in your head, so i'll ask you: please leave me in peace.
Lol, thanks. Good job using the gender neutral pronoun btw, these be treacherous waters for people who think with logic rather than their feelings. -looks over at weirdoz- Can't be TOO safe with all this justice orbiting my post... (￣∇￣")
LOL.... I seriously like your wording
Anyways I'm really trying to see y'all's point in "this is not rape" argument trust me I read through the multiple copy and pasted (because it's become borderline redundancy) on how now that the victim has blossomed into this new found likeliness for his "friend," so it isn't rape, and ooooh he's blushing and feeling good so it's obviously not rape and he liked it
So I'll go back to my question "please tell me what those *not tears* were from page 28-33 of chapter 3" because if you can give me a reason as to how those were not the tears and resistance of a victim, I'll get on my knees and praise you for opening my eyes to a new perspective.
Darling, do yourself a favor. These people are dumb af. Don't ruin your time in convincing these people otherwise. It's pointless to talk with them when they think their point is perfect and doesn't even care to take others opinions into account. Don't waste your time on them. We know what's right and we could keep it to ourselves. I've seen people like these. It's like talking to a stone, no worse, a radio. No matter what you say, they aren't gonna hear but you will ALWAYS hear their pointless talk. It's no use. Let's just stick to our dignity and save our time, shall we? You know it's right and that's enough. You don't have to convince anything to anyone. Especially people who you've never met. Most of them could be trolling for all we know. So, honey, please stop. Let's just let them say whatever they want and just read other manga and chill. Kay?
NOTE : This mail is ONLY for the tagged person and NOBODY else. So, just don't reply to this and I don't wanna hear anyone else's same old comments. Just don't. Save me from the hasle of talking to stones. Just ignore this.
Sure, if you look at that scene in it's entirety you'll see Oono hesitant at first before Kureshima suddenly starts talking dirty and Oono says "i'm starting to feel like the same as back then". Here he is saying that he is getting horny, he's referring to his last delusion where Kureshima talked dirty for him and then pressed his foot to Oono's dick to help him finish. He's saying he's getting horny like last time. This moves on to Kureshima asking who he is imagining in his head right now, Oono realizes he's imagining Kureshima doing all the things in the dirty talk and tries to deny it so Kureshima calls him out saying that it was him Oono was imagining in the park too. And that he has been there during a lot of Oono's delusions and Oono never had any issues getting hard despite him being there. He's saying that Oono is lying to himself and Oono realizes this, but is in denial as he says at the end of ch 4. This is when Kureshima pushes Oono back onto the bed. People don't understand the purpose of this scene, it was to make Oono face reality. That he IS interested in Kureshima already. He has been since the park delusion as Kureshima says. The reason Kureshima talks to Oono normally right after the sex is because he thought he got through to Oono, that he'd be more honest now. That's why he gets angry in ch 4 when Oono pretends like he doesn't know why Kureshima fucked him. "you know why" is what he says. Ch 3 and 4 are about getting rid of Oono's denial. They both know that Oono is already in love. Please read ch 3 and 4 with this in mind.
So, lemme guess, you've NEVER seen tears from a uke in a manga with consensual sex??? Seriously??? It's in every single manga. The uke cries out of joy or some crap. Wha..... You know what... Don't. You can keep your beliefs. I'm not gonna say anything. Just ignore this.
I think they might understand after reading my reply to them. I hope so? This stuff is CLEAR to me, i want others to see it too. I'm fine with the hate, my goal here is to convey exactly what it is i see when i read this.
The purpose of the dialogue at the end of ch 4 was to tell us that he didn't really hate the sex, he wanted it, but was denying it even to himself. He "intended to blame Kureshima" like he says. The dialogue where he talks about how the sex hurt is only a half truth, he was lying. I'm sure it does hurt as it was his 1st time, but he actually felt good. He's lying to himself, do you see it? The dialogue where he says "i don't understand Kureshima, he scares me", this is another half truth. He doesn't mean he's literally scared of him, he means he's scared to face his feelings for Kureshima. He says this after Kureshima forces Oono to acknowledge that he's imagining Kureshima and not Sasaki.
Well, all of us different. So, then carry on, fam. Good luck. I'm pretty sure most would get it now.
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You're all going on the assumption that it was rape based on how the scene in ch 3 LOOKS and what YOU THINK Oono was feeling in that scene, Oono tells us himself how he felt though at the end of ch 4. You guys are speculating about something that is already confirmed. At the end of ch 4 Oono says "Theres no way for us to go back to how we used to be and i cannot forgive him(a bit of the denial he's about to mention)-- And yet, what i truly want to happen-- This odd feeling (love), prickling me. It's... NOT TRUE (more denial)! Just now, what was i thinking?! How unfair, i should be the only one (he says this while watching Kureshima touch his new girlfriend, he's saying it's unfair that Kureshima fucked him and is touching someone else and that he should be the only one Kureshima touches). I didn't realize. It can't be true. I pretended not to know (literally saying here he went into denial). I intended to blame him, but deep down i've always had delusions about him (literally saying here that he intended to blame Kureshima for the sex out of said denial). I didn't want to just watch. I yearned to be touched again (just said he's "always" had delusions about Kureshima and that he "yearned" to be touched again, he wanted Kureshima to touch him) . I was afraid that he'll see through me. Reality feels much better than delusions (literally admitting that he wasn't being completely honest at the beginning of the chapter, that despite the pain the sex felt even better than he'd even imagined it would. "much" better)". To say it's rape at this point you have to literally argue with Oono himself, quit projecting what you guys THINK he was feeling on him, his feelings aren't up for speculation. What Oono is upset about the entire chapter isn't the sex, it's that he doesn't know how Kureshima feels about him, he kicked Kureshima off because "he doesn't understand Kureshima, it scares him", THAT'S what the "he scares me" line meant. Kureshima "scares him" because he doesn't know his intentions, he wants to know his feelings because he's not sure if he's being played with. When Kureshima comes to class talking to Oono normally like nothing happened it pisses Oono off and he literally YELLS at Kureshima "so you were just messing with me!" because to Oono this makes it look like he'd just been being played with after all. Then Kureshima gets a girlfriend and it pushes Oono over the edge and forces him to face his denial, that he'd just been unfairly pretending that Kureshima was at fault for the sex. After the sex he went into denial and "intended to blame him", like he says. Oono KNOWS that there was no way Kureshima would've known he was in pain, he was being done from behind, Kureshima couldn't see his face. He's admitting that here, at the beginning of the chapter, he was unfairly blaming Kureshima for what happened even though he "wanted to be touched" and "pretended not to know (he was already in love)". Him blaming Kureshima was an act of denial, he says so, what he's really upset about is how Kureshima feels about him.