Bloody hell, I thought Yujin was meant to be a "good guy" too, but it turns out he is just as bad as all the other men in Shiwoo's life.
So do you think the story is turning out a bit like "Hogu Hagyeongsu/ An easy target" where the new boyfriend Dong-hyuk also becomes a bit of a bastard, and Kyung-soo rather than blame the rapists/abusers blames himself for turning people that way?
I don’t think he’s same as Hyun
Though he’s not the most innocent person
But I kinda understand him...and Hyun. But I can’t really say they’re doing the right thing,and neither Siu is doing the right thing
I think Siu needs to stop fucking for a second and think about who he wants to be with
And I think Yujin had the anxiety of losing someone he’s loved for years all the time,even before this, I know they weren’t in a relationship and that’s why I blame Yujin for,but I cannot help sympathizing with him
Also,it’s a fact that he turned those two that way
He saw Hyun with a random girl,not knowing what’s their relationship and the first thing he decided to do was sleeping with someone else ( also he’s used to sleeping with different people for fame )
And I think you misunderstood one part
When they were in the hospital,Shiwoo told Yuin he loves Hyun and wants to be with Hyun,Yujin didn’t leave him
And it wasn’t Yujin abandoning Shiwoo
If Shiwoo wants Yujin,then he can stop being greedy for others
It’s not the first time
He abandoned Yujin when he confessed for eight years ( even though he had feelings for him) but yujin was the one who kept coming back to him ( but he shouldn’t have ) and AGAIN,He abandoned him again by confirming he loves Hyun
But the perception of "turning" people into abusers was Kyung-soo's and it was based on his own trauma, anxiety etc rather than his behaviour/personality being used as an excuse or justification for him to be abused by all the men in his life. Same as with this series, Shiwoo might not be 100% likeable at times, but that still doesn't justify the behaviour of all the men who raped, blackmailed him and abused him. Unlike with with "An easy target", I'm not sure this series is conveying properly that the rapist is always the one in the wrong, even if the victim somehow "provokes" them by flirting with others.
But still he’s not the most innocent character i’ve seen
Regardless if you think a character is "innocent" or not, the fact remains is that they are still a victim of abuse. We are provided with a narrative usually as to how the victim and abuser feels about their situation, which obviously can be unreliable as one person is attempting to justify being a criminal, and in Kyung-soo's case he perceived that he deserved to be abused. None of this removes from the fact, that rape and sexual assault is still a crime even if Shiwoo was perceived by his ex to "provoke" him.
It is
But we can’t deny the fact that he used their feelings
I’m not justifying Hyun and Yujin’s actions
But I don’t justify Shiwoo either
Both sides are same to me
Σ(っ°Д °;)っ Shoot! Sorry, i actually meant to give you a thumbs up... you just helped me swerve from the disaster that is this manga! (〜￣△￣)〜
Absolutely! When I was 10 chapters in I IMMEDIATELY thought of "an easy target" which I really hated lmao. There's not constant rape all the time as much as that manhua, but the stories are very similar with dark and twisted themes.
I 100% agree. I thought Shiwoo was pretty unwise at times when he kept returning to his ex with knowledge that he'll only be beaten and raped. He got himself in that situation, but he still does not deserve it. He did not deserve any of the abuse he was inflicted on by ANYONE. And anyone who cannot see that is idiotic.
Gosh this manga is fvcked up ╥﹏╥
Opinions are different
And not everyone sympathize with him
I can’t really feel bad for him
Because he was an idiot who kept chasing after his ‘rapist’ and violent ex,so he’s just getting what he should get after doing something that stupid
If he knows he’s going to be beaten and raped,then he can stop coming back to him.easy,no trouble.
That’s why I think he deserves this
cringy. i think ill drop dis. i cant read something like dat. smh.
I'm not sympathizing. You are saying no matter what this man despite being a clearly flawed and psychologically scarred character he deserves rape and abuse? You're saying a person deserves rape and abuse. Ever heard of Stockholm syndrome? It's a mental illness where an individual returns to their captor/abuser despite the inflicted harm, despite acknowledging that its a dangerous situation. Now, i'm not saying Shiwoo has this but regardless you're saying he deserves the rape, the violent abuse, the denial of orgasm, breathe etc. LOL O K
Because he keeps chasing after his ex despite knowing the fact he’s going to be raped
And if he’s mentally ill,he can get help
after what i read now, i'm going to drop this manga for sure!! i only cept reading bc i thought that yujin and shiwoon would have a happy way to their relationship, but now with his ex, the abuse and threesome ... it's too much for me!!!
I READ THE RAWS WITH MY HANDFUL KNOWLEDGE OF KOREAN. HERE'S A DETAILED EXPLANATION. TRIGGER WARNING: RAPE, ABUSE, VIOLENCE ETC. IT'S A PRETTY WILD SEASON GUYS. SPOILERS:
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>The next several chapters consist of Shiwoo and his ex(don't know his name sorry) meeting up and getting together, having sex.. sex.. more sex and more sex behind Yujin's back. Shiwoo resists a few times but ultimately ends up staying with his ex.
>(PAST)The flashbacks also occur around this time. We begin to find out how Shiwoo and his ex met through the acting agency and began as enemies at first, irritating each other but they gradually grew feelings for each other. Shiwoo and his ex end up getting in an argument and Shiwoo leaves with a mysterious yet dangerous man that his ex warns him about but he leaves with him anyway, thus resulting in Shiwoo getting raped and used by sex toys consistently. Shiwoo's ex saves him but for some reason(??) Shiwoo continues to return to dangerous men and get himself taken advantage of many times, this leads his ex growing incredibly angry with him and even ABUSING Shiwoo as well, choking him, violent sex, sex toys etc. (yes the rape flashback was of Shiwoo's ex. that bastard smhh)
>We return to the present and Shiwoo begins to miss Yujin. Long story short Shiwoo and his ex continue their affair but Shiwoo accidentally calls Yujin's name during sex and his ex grows incredibly angry, beginning to abuse and choke Shiwoo AGAIN. This turns into Shiwoo returning back to Yujin but when Yujin finds out about this, he also gets incredibly angry, rips off Shiwoo's clothes to find all the bruises and bite marks on his body and rejects Shiwoo's affection and leaves him.
>Shiwoo returns to his ex(??? bc why not abuse is fun i guess???) and he consistently gets tormented and sexually abused by him. My guess is because he is so psychologically fucked up that he is sex crazed. Yujin finds out he is getting hurt continuously by his ex and goes to rescue him. (very graphic scene where a bunch of toys are put inside Shiwoo, Shiwoo in pain etc etc.) Overall, Yujin is still upset and leaves Shiwoo.
>Shiwoo's ex finds him bc Shiwoo is avoiding him and begins to torment him again, strapping him down, choking, sexual abuse etc. Yujin comes and finds him AGAIN (but here's the worst part ladies and gentlemen.) Yujin takes part in the sex and they all have a violent threesome and double penetrate Shiwoo painfully. However, Yujin realizes that Shiwoo's ex is hurting him and yells for him to stop. Shiwoo's ex says something like "Why would you wanna be gentle with the one who hurt you?" and Yujin is basically like yea you're right and they continue the sex.
>Shiwoo attempts suicide and ends up in the hospital. Yujin meets up with him and they hug and Shiwoo cries in his arms. However, Yujin makes it clear that this is the final time that they will meet and he leaves for good. Shiwoo goes back home super upset, finds his ex waiting for him and he begins to beat him violently then rape him. Shiwoo's classmate friend and Yujin find Shiwoo's ex doing this and beat the crap out of him, saving Shiwoo for the final time. Shiwoo's classmate friend grows angry with Yujin bc he keeps abandoning him and other things while Shiwoo is physically mentally and emotionally disturbed by all the abuse and cannot take even the smallest acts of touch. But for some reason?? Yujin forces himself on Shiwoo and begins to anally penetrate him with his fingers, Shiwoo begins to cry bc hes remembering all the abuse but Yujin says something like: "It's okay, you don't have to think about it. Just think of me."
>to be continued. (ends ch. 61.)