Took the words out of my mind, i was like...my god please come to my place next! xD!!!
Come to think of it though, isn't this the same as genocide? I mean, Zeus literally wants to wipe humans out, yes? The method is to make it so that men aren't attracted to women anymore, in other words no more reproduction. It's hot and portrays every "turning" in a positive light where everyone gets to find love (except the guy with glasses that he leaves in the hands of "gang rape" rather than pointing out suitors like he does everyone else), but is that okay? The love is great and all, but i don't deny the role heteros play in the grand scheme, no more reproduction so all this love is going to end up leading to mankind's extinction? I mean, maybe the women will just take sperm donations? But, the entire idea is for humanity to be "destroyed with no bloodshed". I'd still love to be visited by him though! I'm gay already so it wont make a difference for me to be visited~
Well yeah thats the idea of this story...wipe out the human race with just making the male population homosexuals xD tbh i just love the whole sex scenes ...reading it with a hard on because ur lust is greater than ur self control (≧∀≦) ( im also gay so i can understand u completely!)
As for the women either they will do something about it or...maybe the God of sex will fall in love with a guy that he will yet to meet and the whole story will change :o you never know! (▰˘◡˘▰)
OMG ME TOO.
I always end up soaked after every chapter and totally ashamed of my level of lust xD
I'm also a pent-up gay bottom and I'm like "PRIAPUS, WHERE U AT????"
OMG ME TOO.
I always end up soaked after every chapter and totally ashamed of my level of lust xD
I'm also a pent-up gay bottom and I'm like "PRIAPUS, WHERE U AT????"
Nah. The men would all become gay, and since gay guys are known to be a lot less agressive and violent than hetero guys, war would stop everywhere since the gay guys would'nt want to go on fighting.
And the women? don't worry about them... If you knew Greek mythology, you'd know Zeus would take care of them all on his own! No risk of humanity dying out... Zeus has plenty to spare for all womenhood...
so that's the plan. Makes sense. Rght?
That sounds kind of worrying. I'm no feminist, but it struck me as worrisome when you said Zeus would take care of all womenhood. It feels off, like women should have a choice. I know you aren't saying Zeus would like imprison and rape them, but what i mean is the more basic gift of being able to look through many suitors and choose who you want. I mean, he IS a god, so maybe they'd ALL want him, i guess? Kinda like how all the straight guys end up wanting Priapus and turning gay. It's just, all the men would be able to choose between each other, so plenty of options, while as all the women would have 1 option? Or maybe other gods would join in? Naturally there're lesbians as well. I'm trying to put myself in the straight women's shoes and while i think it's shitty they only have 1 option, i have to admit, if i were in the same situation with, say, Priapus, i don't think i'd be angry. So idk. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I like this manga for the smut, great art and actually pretty decent short stories (the straight guy scenarios that lead to the sex.), though i have to admit that the idea of someone "turning" gay kinda irritates me as i've never felt like i chose to be gay, i just was without thinking about it and have always loved everything about men. While all the boys around me started to look at girls, i looked at the boys looking at girls. I won't take this seriously of course as they're literal gods and Priapus uses some strange powers to "turn" them gay, i guess what irritated me is that it didn't feel like they were being magically turned gay, it looked like he was just manipulating their bodies through physical means. Sex so great it turned them gay, in other words. This feels like it's actually "turning" them gay through physical means, like if a gay just "fucked them right" they'd turn gay which could be said in reverse as well. Not keen on the thought of gays turning straight if "fucked right" by a chick. I'm being irrational, i know. Obviously there were some things there a human male couldn't do in the same way Priapus does, but all his "magic" just felt like him enhancing his physical abilities or altering the target's. The stun gun he used on the yakuza guy for example, yes it's magic, but what it does is physical, it just stimulated his anus and prostate so that he'd be easier to enter and would feel good while being fucked. His dick extending "power" just being a physical alteration. The web ability he uses on the mover guy just basically being ropes. The blow up doll is just a sexual anti-stimulus(?), like he makes them physically feel great and then shows them that sex with a woman isn't as good by using the doll. It's all physical, "fucking them gay". The idea here is that they ARE straight, not that they are BI and don't know it, and he's turning them. Like, i get that in real life there're like "turning straights" porn videos and what-not, but in those situations what i think is that those guys were BI all along and didn't realize till they were with a guy. This is different, Priapus is taking confirmed straight guys and "turning" them by fucking them good. Just an off feeling, but i wont bother with it as this is great. ヾ(☆▽☆)
Now that you mentioned it, yes Zeus will take care of it (≧∀≦) ( you reminded me about something i have forgotten).
As for the gay guys being less aggressive than hetero guys, ill have to disagree, sure maybe there are more less aggressive gay guys out there on the streets than straight guys but i have met some hardcore aggressive gays that make most straight guys look either their equals or like wimps in comparison. All i'm trying to say is...sexual orientation doesn't make you more aggressive. (sorry if my English is somewhat bad, not my prime language)(▰˘◡˘▰).
Is it allright if I answer you both in the same reply? You seem to talk about the same thing. (or are the two of you actually one person?)
Anyway, I think you are taking this story, manga in general and my reply all too serious. This isn't real life, this is fantasy: first of all, it's a manga, and the topic is Greek mythology; so real life doesn't come into it at all.
Second: for people who have read or learned about Greek mythology, it would have been clear that Zeus never imprisoned women to do with them what he wanted, but that he had the habit of changing himself into whatever or whomever he wanted in order to appear before a woman of his choice and seduce her. No woman was ever raped or forced to do what he wanted: there are numerous tales about Zeus coming down from Mount Olympos (that's where the Greek gods lived) in the form of a person or a mythological creature or even some animal, visit a woman and made her fall in love with him and have his baby. Greek mythology is full of half-gods, children of a god and a human woman, or of a human man and a godess. And Zeus was the champion of that hobby :-D. The best known half-god was Heracles, better known as Hercules, son of His Majesty Zeus and a girl called Alkmeine.
My Greek teacher told us tons of stories like that. Obviously the author of this manga had Ancient Greek in High School as well, and remembered lots of it...
But it's not to be taken so seriously.
On top of that: this is a comedy story! It's meant to be funny... Japanese people just take sex very serious, not like Westerners, you should have noticed that while reading manga, shouldn't you?
So chill.
Oh, and of course there are agressive gay guys too; it's just that the average numbers of aggressivity among men is about 10% to 90% between gays and straights. But that doesn't mean you can't fantasize about a god trying to end wars on Earth by turning the men all gay...
All the mangaka wants us is to laugh at it, not take it too serious.
Did you really read what i said to you? Your reply makes it look like you didn't. I addressed most of what you said here already, your reply didn't really address the issue i had with your proposal that "Zeus would handle womanhood" and you go off in one part of your reply based on something i specifically said i knew you weren't saying. Okay: The two of us are different people, not sure where you got the idea that we're the same. Did our writing styles even look similar? As far as it "just being a manga that we shouldn't take seriously", i acknowledged in my reply that i felt i was being irrational, it is just a feeling that kinda comes up. Tbh, what you said didn't really address my concern, you just went into further detail about Zeus and how he got women pregnant, my concern was that the women wouldn't have a choice aside from Zeus in the scenario you mentioned. I also acknowledged that "i know it's not like you're saying he'd imprison and rape them", but you still went on responding like i said that's what you were saying. You also mention that "irl shouldn't even come into it", there is no logic here, my own experiences are based in reality, not fiction, so of course what i say is going to be based in reality. I also explained in my reply how, despite Priapus using "magic", it is actually all just physical, i pointed out how all of his "powers" can be compared to reality. That is where i took issue. It gave the impression that he was fucking straights gay, rather than magically changing them. It can be taken as that all those confirmed straight guys just needed to be "fucked right" to turn gay, a popular insult used on gays and what-not. "how do you know you're gay if you've never fucked a woman? Bet you just need fucked right". But i also said that i'm "not going to allow this to bother me as this is a good manga". You just said everything i said like it was some kind of counter argument when it wasn't an argument to begin with. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
LMFAO dude / girl / w.e im not taking this manga seriously ...i was only trying to tell u that what u said wasn't completely true (about the gay guys being less aggressive than str8 guys), it had nothing to do with the manga ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Also i find it funny how u thought we were the same person (≧∀≦)
In any case good luck with your life! xD i said my part :D cya (▰˘◡˘▰)
Wow, my bad, seems like you're totally irritated. Sorry if I didn't read everything the way you wanted me to...
As for Priapos "fucking straights gay", that only would be true if this were a western comic, not a Japanese manga. In Japan, homosexuality was never considered bad and sinful, or even the actual counterpart of "straight", in the litteral sense, as in "bent the wrong way" instead of straight. It wasn't seen that way in Ancient Greece neither, btw. It's a purely Biblical thought that homosexuality is "wrong".
So a Japanese mangaka would never try to give the impression that he wanted to turn the table and make heterosexuality wrong instead: he simply will try to make it as if gay men are less prone to wage war than straight men.
It is true that Priapos's tricks aren't really all that magical, but that too is not to be taken seriously. We're meant to just be laughing about it.
And as for Zeus: the women in the myths about his womanizing are never forced, they are always seduced without even knowing it's him... examples: Heracles's mother Alkmeine never knew she had been unfaithful, since Zeus had taken on the appearance of her husband himself. A girl called Leda was visited by him while he had taken the form of a swan, and a gril called Danae never even saw him, because he had turned himself into a cloud of gold dust, which she saw while sleeping and thought was a dream. Ancient Greek mythology saw rape as something despiccable: plenty of myths of girls chased by men wanting tho rape her and call for the gods to help her, being saved by them trough magic, changing her into a tree, or some other way. And the guys were usually punished. The only real crime for the Greeks was "hubris", sinful pride. And the only woman who ever got hurt by Zeus's womanizing was Hera, his wife, although she was far from a sweet innocent soul either...
Anyway, I was never argumenting, I was simply adding my two cents, since this story brings back my memories from Greek lessons in High School.
Sure, it's a biblical thing, but you're wrong if you think that the bible is the only source of homophobia, it's not just a "western thing", you had mentioned in your previous reply about how i should have learned while reading manga, the same applies here as "homos" are almost never depicted as "normal" in them. This is a cultural thing, not just religious. Japan is just as homophobic as anywhere else, it's still considered "abnormal" so i'm not sure where you're coming from when you make it seem like Japan is this bastion of peace for the gays. It seems like you're just talking out your ass, to be frank. My issue with it looking like he's "fucking them gay" definitely has as much basis, if not more as America is more accepting of gays, in Japan as in America.
As far as "greek mythology seeing rape as despicable", i only know this from earlier today because a comment here was saying it, but if you look it up, Priapus's go to threat was rape. "if you steal from me i'll sodomize you". It's VERY explicit saying things like how he'll leave the anus loose, it can be man, boy or woman and he'll rape them regardless, etc. Also, you actually contradicted yourself, you said "there was no rape" and then said "there were some who didn't even know it happened" and gave the gold mist example. He raped her in her sleep... The example where he took her husband's appearance and raped her as well, it's still rape if she doesn't know who he is... Just because she thought it was her husband doesn't mean it was consensual, she consented to her husband, not him. Besides, there is rape in ALL religions. Dude, you might need to go over your "facts" again, you don't seem to know what you're talking about, you sound like you read the percy jackson books and wanted to go over some mythology so you ignored me explicitly saying "i know you're not saying he will rape or imprison them" so you could talk about it. I read them all too, but the mythology didn't help you or i, it addressed nothing i said as it was in response to something i very clearly said you weren't saying. That sounds harsher than i mean it, but you just tried to say homophobia is a western thing and that rape isn't a thing in greek mythology despite you contradicting yourself and both these statements being identifiably incorrect. If you want to talk about mythology, fine, but your overall tone was very condescending throughout the entire message, tbh. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
You're still ignoring what my real issue was and you're still trying to push your "it's fiction" mentality, which tbh has no logic. I KNOW it's "not supposed to be taken seriously", i've already said i wont and that i realize i'm being irrational (irrational means you can't help it. It's a comparison that i can't help but notice. The way Priapus uses physical means to manipulate confirmed straight guys' bodies into turning gay is easily comparable to the insult thrown around irl. But, again, i wont let it bother me), but ANY time you comment on a work of fiction your opinion is going to be based on your real life experiences as you aren't a fictional character in a book. Naturally you're going to make irl comparisons. I'm not saying the two are 100% comparable, but you'll make comparisons where you can.
Sign me the fuck up! I mean, i'm already gay, but... Meh, semantics~