What? Why?! I mean, she's not ENTIRELY hateable, but she's like 85% manipulative bitch... She kissed Ayukawa when he passed out... A nurse preyed on a guy who literally passed out from sickness... It's a good thing this isn't psychological, she'd have gotten herself pregnant... I get her side, i really do, but she has done very questionable and downright bad shit. Her love has moved on to obsession, love doesn't make you want to ruin the person's life. she KNOWS what it meant when Ayukawa actually allowed himself to try to date Kawana, that he'd actually managed to open up. She still chose to whisper in Kawana's ear multiple times, then in Ayukawa's and she chose to keep Kawana away with that lie.
I know she has done some bad things and said things she shouldn't have. but at the end of the day, He was a big boy. what he did with his life was up to him. And like the other girl said, she takes care of all of them in and out of the hospital. being their complete support system when they need it. she didn't mean to fall in love with the guy. she even got married and tried to move on because she knew it wasn't right.
She is in twenty kinds of pain over him, and I can sympathize with that.
If you say so... I feel like you're really downplaying her influence on Ayukawa and in general really when you say "he was a big boy". You mention that she got married like it's a plus point in her category while not acknowledging that there are two people in a marriage, he loved her enough to marry her and was just being used. I'll agree that she is good at her job, aside from mixing personal feelings with work and then even preying on an unconscious patient. Not sure how this reflects on her misdeeds though, tbh. So, what? Because she works hard and is a nurse her objectively bad actions are less bad? She does a good job and helps people, yes, but that has nothing to do with her misdeeds. I can kill someone and go donate to charity and the kill should still weigh just as much. What does her job have to do with it? As far as her being in pain, she could've confessed instead of manipulating him and the people around him, she chose herself to stay with him and silently angst. She ended up just blurting out a confession anyways. I know what you're saying, i've taken everything into account, but she really can't be excused. Kawana was/is a huge part of Ayukawa's life, he was getting better (happy, a more positive outlook) after all he's been through and, despite having been there with him when he was at his worst, despite seeing him overcome everything, she still chose to take that happiness away out of jealousy. That isn't love, it's obsession.
I would still say Ayukawa and Kawana are the one's in the relationship together. They made the decision, the both of them to be together. so regardless what anyone else said, it's on them what happens in the relationship. Ayukawa ran away. Kanwana let him. That was all them.
I do know what she did with the kiss was inexcusable. But it's not like she ever, ever made a move like that a second time. I won't say anything about her marriage. we didn't see into it at all to make those kinds of "he was used" comments. I just see everyone making her the bad guy. When it's Ayukawa who was having the self-doubt, the pity party, and deciding to end things. he shoved her away. That's on his head. Not anyone else's.
We didn't have to see into the marriage, she literally said herself to Ayukawa that she got married "to see if i could get over you". She said she was using the guy and you can tell from the fact that they got married that he must've loved her. As far as Ayukawa goes, literally everyone was whispering in both his and Kawana's ears, of course they had doubts. They DID stay together, for quite a while. They WERE fighting it, but when Kawana was faced with the fact that she can't take care of Ayukawa when needed and when Ayukawa was faced with the fact that Kawana was suffering trying to stay with him they broke up. I can't say i agree with your "it's their fault since they're a couple" mentality, it completely disregards that Nagashima went in with the INTENTION of messing with Kawana's head and then breaking them apart. In what universe besides steven's do relationships stay together based on nothing but "we're a couple"? You aren't acknowledging the WEIGHT behind their problems either, this isn't some basic couple, Kawana will have to take care of him for life and he'll have to put his pride aside and accept that. There is deep psychological interference, so for you to say "they're a couple" as an excuse for the outside forces, not just Nagashima, conspiring to break them up, it seems ridiculous. I agree that Ayukawa pushed her away, though it was only after all the judgement and seeing Kawana hurting whittled his resolve down. To say "that's on him" is like saying that if you pushed me, i lost my balance and pushed someone else, it's my fault because i exerted force from my arms... It's like, no, you made me lose balance...
by it's on the couple, I mean, even if outside forces plague either of them. they should confide in each other and talk about it, try to resolve it. if they choose not to do that, it's their fault. they can't read each others mind. they have no trust in each other, that much is clear.
As for the marriage, we never saw if they were happy, or if she did have feelings for her husband. for all we know, they parted on good terms. We DONT know. We got a few lines. those lines aren't enough to decipher it.
Kawana is also at fault, for letting herself go. for freaking out so bad to the point she wasn't sleeping or eating, and pushing herself. She caused so much trouble onto an already freaked out Ayukawa. because if your partner is so worried they are deteriorating themselves, no one will believe they should be in a relationship with them.
I don't see your point about whether or not they trust each other, they were a relatively new couple with Kawana only having scratched the surface on what it means to be a caretaker before Nagashima started placing doubts in her head, trust builds over time. If everyone "should break up" because they lack trust at the very beginning of their relationship then give up everyone, the human population is going to get quite a bit smaller. Again, as far as the marriage goes, BECAUSE we haven't seen what happened in her marriage (and we probably won't as it isn't relevant to the story), ALL we can go off of is what IS there. She has explicitly stated that she married him to get over Ayukawa, you focusing on the lack of information on the specifics while ignoring what we WERE given isn't logical. Who cares what we DON'T know? We have facts that HAVE been given to us that need to be taken into account. Again you're blaming a character for actions that were influenced by outside forces. Kawana's health deteriorated as a result of her worry, yes, but what was the reason for her worry? Nagashima pointing out that she can't help Ayukawa when she's needed. You seem too biased, you have placed literally all the blame on Ayukawa and Kawana even though Nagashima has been verifiably manipulating things since she and Kawana met (you can physically see for yourself that Nagashima has been behind pretty much all of their relationship struggles. Each time something happens it either ties back to something Nagashima said or Kawana's family with most of her family troubles bringing things Nagashima said to Kawana's mind). You have yet to actually acknowledge anything Nagashima has done, all you've spent time doing here is trying to explain how, despite Nagashima's involvement in their troubles, it's somehow ONLY their fault because they're a couple. You just sit here trying to downplay everything she did so you can like her, i don't have to do that for any of the other characters. That's why Nagashima is a problem.
you act as though, if she weren't there, the two would still be together. like ayukawa wouldn't of had doubts and felt she was better off without him. It's in his nature to fall back to that place, ask his ex. And like kanwana wouldn't of gotten all stressed out with just the added complications that come with their relationship, and her family problems. i'm just saying, none of these things change with or without the nurse there.
As for her yelling at kanwana when ayukawa was sick that last time, it's understandable. trying to volunteer for a procedure you understand nothing about, and it was stressing the patient the fuck out, while he needed to be calm and recouping. I get why she got mad for that one.
They would? Ayukawa tried to get Kawana back, she feels guilty because she's already with Kureeda, but if Nagashima hadn't said they're dating they would've been able to talk. While with Kureeda, Kawana has never stopped thinking about Ayukawa, Kureeda even just said before they had sex that Ayukawa was still number 1 in her heart. She thinks Ayukawa's offer to get back together from the train station no longer stands because he's "with Nagashima now". She is only resigning herself to dating Kureeda because she cares about him and Ayukawa "isn't an option".
I completely agree with all of what you said! Your comments were quite well written . (=・ω・=)
......i don't hate the nurse.
please don't bite me