Forgot about this and stumbled upon it again. Still a great read, but...

youraedthiswrogn May 28, 2018 7:35 am

Am i the only one irritated with how Nao guilt tripped Ryuu into being the uke? Like, i completely agree that in a relationship you need to compromise, but i don't feel that what she said was applicable to their dilemma, tbh. Sexual preference isn't "being greedy" or "not compromising", it's just a preference. He's just inherently a top, he'd never thought about being done and when he was propositioned with being the bottom his immediate response was to not want to. It feels like he was guilt tripped into doing something he didn't want to do while as Hiroto naturally came to the conclusion that he'd let Ryuu be seme WITHOUT any outside influence, so it doesn't feel like Hiroto was all that invested in topping anyways. Let's face it, he wouldn't have given up the seme position if she hadn't said something and it's not like he necessarily looks happy about it, he is all straight faced and spacey all the way up till he bottoms, you can see he really had to talk himself into it while as Hiroto was just going to do it after some thought. Idk... I just feel like she interfered where she didn't need to.

When they fight at the end of ch 2 and into ch 3, it's not even their positions that Hiroto gets upset about, it's that Ryuu wont respect his wishes to not have sex because his sister is there. He feels like Ryuu is trying to "own" him, this has nothing to do with their sexual positions, but somehow ends up bleeding into that. He just wanted Ryuu to cherish him, treat him special, rather than as another one of his "objects". Somehow, this fight in combination with what Nao said makes him come to the conclusion he should set aside his preference and bottom for Hiroto. Yes, he was being selfish when he demanded they have sex or break up, and THIS falls under what Nao was saying, but no his preference wasn't him "being greedy" and shouldn't have been lumped in with that fight. If he'd wanted to do this himself, after topping Hiroto a few times and seeing that he still wants to top, it would've been fine, but it feels like he doesn't really want to so much as that he thinks he SHOULD out of guilt.

It's also annoying because i had thought Ryuu was going to bottom anyways up till ch 2 because of how Hiroto calls him "cute" and basically describes him as a queen, so i was excited when he suddenly got a dose of masculinity and looked like he was going to top. He looked like a sexy top too, he was so aggressive/assertive... at least go seke... Then it just threw us back on the established path. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

Responses
    JustAYaoiFangirl July 4, 2018 11:08 pm

    Her statement was centred around their whole relationship. Basically, this was the first time the uke didn't get things how he wanted.

    youraedthiswrogn July 4, 2018 11:47 pm
    Her statement was centred around their whole relationship. Basically, this was the first time the uke didn't get things how he wanted. JustAYaoiFangirl

    Didn't he come up and talk to her about their roles? Even if she WAS talking about their whole relationship, how is anything outside of their sex life relevant to the problem? This is what i meant when i said it felt like he was guilt tripped, why bring up other things he gets? "man, i really want to top him, but he doesn't want to.", "Well, you get everything you want, aren't you being selfish?". Do you see the problem there? Sexual preference isn't the same as getting your boyfriend to give you his snack, you can call THAT greedy, but him wanting to top is just a preference. How is him getting his way in other things relevant to their sex life?

    Amorim November 1, 2018 12:44 am

    I mean thought it was fine. The uke wanted to top and so did the seme. So far not a problem. The uke not wanting to talk and compromise and instead saying "well since I can't get what I want let's just break up" that's not ok, and that's what makes him be in the wrong

    youraedthiswrogn November 1, 2018 12:51 am
    I mean thought it was fine. The uke wanted to top and so did the seme. So far not a problem. The uke not wanting to talk and compromise and instead saying "well since I can't get what I want let's just break up... Amorim

    "let's break up"- It's been awhile so i don't remember that, do you remember what page it was on? Something i'd like to point out is that people do that and it's not "in the wrong", especially gays. Choosing to stay with someone you aren't sexually compatible with makes no sense. It worked out here because he ended up liking anal, but what if he hadn't? What if it just didn't feel good to him? Would you have still expected him to stay? People are selective with their sexual partners and that's okay. It's just sexual preference.

    Amorim November 1, 2018 5:34 am
    "let's break up"- It's been awhile so i don't remember that, do you remember what page it was on? Something i'd like to point out is that people do that and it's not "in the wrong", especially gays. Choosing to... youraedthiswrogn

    I do not remember the page :/ pretty sure they referenced it in chapter 3 so it must have been... end of chapter 2? Maybe? And I get that he has his preferences and that fine but I mean if there was love there... they should have talked about it? Like I love you so maybe we can switch every night or something? I mean he didn't even let the situation sink in before he suggested breaking up.

    youraedthiswrogn November 1, 2018 6:19 am
    I do not remember the page :/ pretty sure they referenced it in chapter 3 so it must have been... end of chapter 2? Maybe? And I get that he has his preferences and that fine but I mean if there was love there.... Amorim

    Yeah, that makes sense. I'll have to look back ch 2, ty. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)