Who TF is that Anon?! LOL!

Get some rest. You've been argue with people all day( or might depend on your time zone).

Thank you and i feel the same, so many people read that scene and just interpreted it however they wanted, like to a ridiculous degree. I saw some people saying Dojin let out his pheromones TO make Hyesung weak and rape him... What? That's literally just not what happened... If you read and understand the flow of events, it's clear that he released them to make a point because Hyesung had just said "are you threatening me?". He was offended that Hyesung was implying he even WOULD threaten him, that's why Hyesung says "these are Dojin's pheromones?" as he's never been forced so he doesn't know what they feel like and Dojin says "have i ever let my pheromones out around you? I was nice to you, i let you make yourself at home.". Then Dojin's eyes glaze over up till Hyesung says "it hurts", indicating he lost control, as he later states in ch 20: "i lost all control".

Ikr? XD They're nosey as fuck

Yeah, i'm stuck inside rn and this shit is entertaining.

I never understood this one thing .out of context here, but if the word 'rape 'is such a strong word and have so much impact, why do people use it on manga like these yaoi cliches where most of the time uke enjoys himself getting fucked or fall in love or sometimes he himself says he actually wanted it . rape is rape I get it someone without your will have sex with you it is rape, but is it that easy in mangas like these? where the so-called victim himself wanted it. why do people forget that in rape, a victim does not want it in any way even if he feels pleasure or the outcome is not like that where they both end up falling in love. people blame me for not recognizing manga like these are rape, but try to understand me here .because rape is a big deal in real and is horrific and abusive, I do not like to call manga like these rape but then sometimes rather than understanding what others are saying people get angry and get personal. no, I am not condoning or defending rape I just hate when people use the word rape in things like these it's sad. there is a difference. people who got rape have traumatic experiences because of it, they do not enjoy or simply forget they get raped.in mangas like these, it is not always either this or that people see the reaction of uke what he himself says or do. if people are applying a rape definition in unrealistic mangas like these why don't they also try to see if there are any circumstances of real-life rape in it or not? without blaming people that we defend rape no I don't defend rape the thing I defend is rape is something big and horrific and to use it rape word in a manga like these bothers me where uke spreads his legs for the seme in the end. there is a word dub con for a reason. I am talking about this specific manga here.

That's actually a rape myth, rape victims can and do enjoy the physical stimulation, it's a problem as it makes them feel like they wanted it and makes them not want to report it out of guilt. It's something rapists take advantage of, "oh, you feeling good? You must want this then." even if you said no. The distinction you aren't aware of is between "wanting it" and "feeling good", when you're touched sexually your body WILL react, so you can feel good even while you're being raped. What matters is if you WANTED it, if it was a negative experience for you and you indicated to them they don't have your consent, it was rape.

eh, I think I got something wrong because I think the same and you are right, there is a difference in feeling pleasure due to stimulation and actually enjoying the whole sex. that's what my whole point was most of the manga where uke himself enjoy at his own will, in the end, admits it too but people still call it rape, he clearly stated, t he is enjoying it by his own will and end up falling for the seme and also acts like rape, is something normal .that is what I have problems with. here enjoying was for not because of pleasure but by his own will sorry for my English

Oh, in those cases the predominant argument is that while the uke says in hindsight he wanted it deep down, he didn't at the time. There're other complications as well such as the seme's role in the sex, did he apply any force, was he continuing even though the uke seemed hesitant? Etc. I agree though that there are cases where a scene was made to look like it COULD be rape, only for the uke to say it was actually okay. In these scenarios the seme usually already knows the uke is okay with it, so he goes through with the sex and this can make it LOOK like rape since the uke isn't making it clear he wants it externally even if he does internally and the seme just continues on. This isn't rape, it's dubious consent. It means that regardless of their actions, the both of them know there is consent. This type of scene is used for rape-play porn in yaoi all the time. It looks forceful and sexy and then it's fine. Some people just have trouble ACCEPTING that it's fine, the ones that view rape as completely black or white. They refuse to accept the uke's dialogue or will try and twist it or say that he's speaking in hindsight and wasn't okay at the time. I wouldn't bother arguing with these types, they're entirely motivated by feelings and see you as a villain for saying the scene, that was confirmed by dialogue to not be rape, isn't rape.

That's the reason I'm following. Chewing popcorn while watching Cyber war is my past time hobby( I don't inspire war though, I'm at arguing with people).

I don't know about nosy, but I think everyone has right to express their opinion( and when I said everyone, I mean everyone). I myself prefer Hyesung over Dojin at the moment, for reasons I will not disclose to avoid getting into war. But I will say this: people like and dislike things all the times for their own personal reason, so please don't get offended when some people have different opinions from you, cause they're not you.

Ah, I'm happy at how you worded this. I was mainly playing devil's advocate on this topic just to spark a debate. But seeing this argument shut me down, lol. I hope no one thought I was offended or trying to offend others. Anyways, nice cyber war guys.

Np and you too :^)

Oh my god WHERE WAS I WHEN THIS WAR WAS GOING ON (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Why did nobody call me to the crossfire?! ╥﹏╥

Lol, you're everywhere all the sudden! Sorry you missed out on all the "fun" (≧∀≦)

Don't worry, next time I'll try messaging you

it's not 'all of a sudden' D: I've been working diligently day by day, constantly, putting a piece of me in every comment i write..
What does it take to get recognition around these parts? ┗( T﹏T )┛

ヾ(☆▽☆) thank you, handsome stranger

I'm sorry? Ahaha. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)