I agree with most of what you are saying but it seems to me that the ex was just “leaving his options open, and closing his ex lovers” by outing him. He wanted to make it so he would not dare have another relationship with a guy while he was away and he could come back anytime and “pick up the pieces” but now that his old flame is happy, and not with him, then he wants to destroy his heart so he can be there to “fill it”. This EX is an ass and a manipulative jerk with only his self interest at heart. I am rooting for the happy couple but sometimes it is hard to handle the pressure of uncertainty in this type of relationship with a person that has a history. Sure worries will be there but he needs to have more faith. His lover is obviously seriously in for the long haul. I hope he realizes that in time.
I can't agree with your whole "everything was intentional, exactly as planned" theory, he was clearly very irritated/upset when he outed him to his dad. It looked more like an emotional outburst rather than a calculated step. I think he's an asshole, but that's it, you're diving into a whole other TIER and i don't really see much evidence that he is as you described. I think he really does care for the uke in his own way, his facial expressions and dialogue imply this, he just needs to learn HOW to love someone, to NOT to hurt them like that. Why would he take precautionary steps to keep him from other guys anyways? From his PoV the uke is "a coward". Idk, a lot of things just don't add up the way you described them.
Although i DO think what happened just now was intentional, he's still interested in the uke so he placed doubts in his head to try and get him back.
Yes! He is such an asshole! I can't even describe the rage I felt when he outed Aki to his dad, if someone ever did that to me, I don't think I could ever forgive them.
Coming out is something very personal, and who and when you want to come out to, are for you to choose, not for someone else to blurt out without any consideration.
And just like you, I cried when I came out to my best friend, I was so nervous I wanted to throw up, because even if the person you are coming out to seems to be ok with other LGBTQ+ people (like my best friend :) ), there's still always that possibility of rejection, that no matter how small, can still make you panic.
Yes! I came out to my mom even after my friends! I'm not sure how i would've handled it if someone had outed me to her.
I admire your braveness, I still haven't come out to anyone in my family, my whole family is very religious (catholic) and against LGBTQ+, so I'm terrified of doing so because there is a real threat of getting pushed out of the family or just being completely invalidated, so I'm just gonna hide it as much as I can.
Shit, that's rough! I know your situation, but i really hope that one day you'll be able to tell them! Idk how old you are, but maybe when you move out? That way they'll have time to process it and you can try and win them over if anything happens? I mean, i don't imagine it's possible to hide forever, they'll eventually wonder why you've never had a gf/bf (not sure of your gender). Just try and be brave when the time comes! Maybe bring a friend?
Firstly, I want to thank you for commenting and replying to my thoughts. I really appreciate the dialogue. Now, I freely admit that I read A LOT of yaoi so I may have gotten my recollection of this story confused with another, and for that, I apologize. I will reread to make sure I feel the same way. It’s just this latest chapter made me angry and feel like the EXs moves were too damn calculated and maybe I just read into it too much. But as far as the more serious topic you are talking about with coming out, though I cannot directly relate, I have two kids that I have constantly told that it doesn’t matter to me who they are or who they love, all that matters is that they are happy and the person treats them well. I believe in accepting everyone regardless of gender and teach my kids to be just as open minded and accepting of others equally, as I do. I would hope that my children know that if They came out to me that I would love them just as much regardless and give them a hug and be happy for them. I wish I could do that for you and tell you it would be ok, it will be tough, but I have faith in time you will gather friends to support you and one day conquer that obstacle. I know if you were my kid or friend, and I have many that have come out to me, I would treat you the same. I wish you the best.
No problem :^D And i hope Andreitta is able to come out too one day. I've got to say, it's really great that you're passing your "let everyone be themselves" ideology on, thank you!
the ex is a prime example of an domestic abuser. The outburst and his continuous need to demean and lower Aki's self esteem is more than just being an asshole, it's finding power in his narcissistic love of Aki and disregarding Aki's autonomy and believing his decisions are the best for their relationship or lack of.
I can't agree, there isn't anything implying he's mistreated him before the outing scene and he seemed to do that out of irritation rather than with any ulterior motives. I'll agree he's an asshole, but that's it, you're going into detail on him being more evil than the manga has even implied. He's just an asshole, das it. He's an asshole, so he's not below manipulating the uke into getting back with him.
I totally get you.. In ch 3 I thought maybe cause of the insecurity of both and communication problem they separated.. but knowing what he said and hurt and made the MC guilty as hell nahh he is a complete crapbag.. First he leaves and now that he sees the MC is finally is happy and changing with somebody he gets fucking jealous.. Jealous Jerkk!!
Not sure why this was even up for debate? Though i'm glad to see more people realize he's an ass now. You can give the whole "well look at it from his point of view" argument, but it doesn't matter, HE chose HIMSELF to date a gay who is "in the closet", he just got impatient and decided to do something that could've caused irreversible damage. Outing him to his dad was just disgusting, heteros might not understand, but coming out to your parent is fucking terrifying. It took me years. And i KNEW my mom was okay with gays, she had a gay best friend... There is just a lot of fear. And that's just in America, they're presumably in Asia... He could've been disowned, he could've literally destroyed a family. When he chose to date a closeted gay, he took up the burdens, if he couldn't handle that he should've broken up with him and found someone more compatible. The whole "he's just giving advice, trying to help the uke" argument is ridiculous as well, he JUST went in for a kiss after placing all those doubts in the uke's head... He's clearly still interested. That is why. He's done the OPPOSITE of help, he outed him to his parent and now he lives in mental anguish thinking he's responsible for his father's accident. Sure, you could say it'll help in the long run, because his dad HAPPENED to be okay with it and didn't disown his son, but it's sure as hell not something I'D ever thank the guy for if it happened to me. I'd never talk to him again. If the ex IS in love, he let his own self interests come before caring for his partner. I can't even say it's love, tbh. How do you love someone and out them to their parent, it seriously disgusts me. I feel nauseous right now thinking about it. I can sympathize with people in his situation, but that's why you don't date closeted guys unless you're the type that can handle it.