He was asleep??? He almost fell on seungwon shoulder anyway?? And honestly he was tired he knew he was falling asleep, and didn’t seem to care much. god don’t read so much into it lmao
Um... Why are you being so rude? I just posted my thoughts on the chapter... I also don't consider it as "reading too much into it". He fell on Chanyoung's shoulder, Chanyoung then pushed him onto the shoulder of a guy in love with him while he was unconscious, is any of this wrong? Where there did i "read into it"? It was a pretty straightforward response just to the events that happened, you act like i brought up symbolism or something. He "didn't care much" because he is naive and doesn't understand what is happening and his friends are taking advantage of that. Am i wrong? Are they not literally relying on how dense he is to put them together? I had said that this is what is making me uncomfortable, the way they're conspiring and tricking Heesu who is too innocent to know what is going on. You also say "he was asleep" like it's an argument, that's the problem. These 2 took advantage of him while he was unconscious, if he wanted that kind of contact with Seungwon, he'd do it himself while awake. It's just weird to force the situation to happen, you don't pull your crush onto your shoulder while they're sleeping because there're romantic undertones in the action that might not be appreciated. Not sure how you don't see that. I can tell this isn't so much about what i said as it is about you having a personal grudge, sorry if i was rude to you or something, but try not to shitpost on my comments in the future. I recognize your username, but i can't remember from where, so i know we have a past.
First of all I don’t know who you are or recognise your username at all so idk what you’re thinkinf lol, ans I’m saying you read to far into it because it was simple and not as creepy as you’re saying it was. Of course seungwon wouldn’t like him to sleep on the other guys shoulder, because MC might like him from his point of view (they have a history and MC Is always with him and before that MC told him to stay away- for all he know he might like him). He obviously didn’t care who he touched because he nearly laid on the guy in the first place that’s all I’m saying.
And you commented so it’s not against the law for me to disagree, I’d didn’t mean to come across as rude.
To be frank, i don't believe you when you say you didn't intend to come across as rude, your reply was nothing but. It was literally just rude, you didn't just disagree. You don't even sound apologetic starting your reply with "first of all" and only adding like half a sentence at the VERY end of your reply saying "i didn't mean to come across as rude". You came across confrontational rather than apologetic. You're completely missing my point on Heesu being asleep, read what you just said, it is BECAUSE Seungwon has those feelings that it is wrong for him to go out of his way to get Heesu on his shoulder. Heesu hasn't expressed interest in him TO HIM yet (WE know Heesu is all ga-ga about Seungwon saying he's special, but Seungwon thought he said something wrong), he is pulling his sleeping crush onto his shoulder while the established context is that he doesn't feel that he's made any progress with Heesu. Lets switch the situation up a bit, if a girl fell asleep in class and a dude held her hand while she was sleeping because he likes her, would that be okay to you?
He isn’t holding his hand! That’s the thing! It shows heesu swaying back and forth and laying on him for a second before he goes to the other guy. There’s nothing wrong with him on either of the guys shoulder. I’m disagreeing by you calling it creepy, and the guy only glared he didn’t pull him off the other guy. The other guy is trying to help the situation and pushes him over.
It isn’t creepy. Even if the chanyoung didn’t want heesu on him and pushed him away then, it wouldn’t matter.
I really wasn’t trying to come across rude at first then you got all pissy shmm. So of course I’m not gonna be a saint when replying.
Sorry! I pressed the wrong button! I was meant to press the thumbs down one!
First, they are all friends there and he knows 'the guy that has a crush on him' so its not as creepy as your making it seem. If he did NOT know the dude, then yeah, it would creepy, but they are friends hun,
Your thinking too uch into it and me saying this isnt being rude, you posted what you thought here, right? Im just posting what i think too. And i think your thinking way too much into it. Just saying.
Wait, scratch that. I am being rude. You calling it creepy is over board. Go read something else if you dont like the way the author wrote this story. Simple. No need to spread your negative vibe around here.
Byeeee~(⌒▽⌒)
You saying that isn't rude, the way you presented what you were saying is, you literally just did the same thing. I have no problem with people disagreeing, go ahead and say you disagree and thumbs down, but when you two make a scene in the process is where it gets ridiculous and you make an ass of yourselves.
The hand is relevant, you're really splitting hairs. The concept is pretty easy to understand, you don't touch someone you are crushing on with romantic intent unless you know they're open to your feelings. If you think it isn't creepy, ask the people around you how they'd feel if they woke up with their head on your shoulder and found out you put it their with those intentions. The ones who're open to a relationship with you wont care while as the ones who view you as nothing more than a friend will be creeped out that you put them in that position. Idc if you agree, tbh, it's a pretty logical statement. You can think what you want, but so far you haven't said anything to change my mind, all you've done is spam "i disagree" with an attitude. If you're done, why're you still here?
Also, you bringing up that they're friends isn't an argument. I had said everything i said with that knowledge in mind... It's like, no shit they're friends and he knows him, now that you're done stating basic facts that everyone was replying while knowing, do you have a valid counter to anything i say, or are you going to continue doing what Limabean is doing by telling me i'm wrong and reading too much into because that's how you feel? Idc if you feel like that, what i'm saying is a statement of logic, you saying "well i don't think so" doesn't change my mind. As i said to Limabean, it's a pretty basic concept, you don't touch someone you have feelings for unless you know they're open to your feelings. If i woke up and found out one of my friends had put me in a position that had me physically touching them and i found out they secretly liked me, but i didn't feel the same for whatever reason, i'd feel awkward and wouldn't want to be vulnerable around them again. I wouldn't be a DICK to them, but i WOULD make it clear that i'm not interested in them like that and that i'd rather they just ask next time they decide to do something like that.
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He didn’t pull heesu onto himself, the other guy pushed him so you’re entire argument is invalid. Because he didn’t touch anyone forcefully.
I’m not done because you keep replying.
Ugh, i had to write 3 responses to what you said because you decided to split SO much shit into two different replies, try condensing next time? In response to THIS^ reply, no. I'm not sure where you get off blowing what i said out of proportion, but it wasn't a particularly "negative" comment, i just said it feels off and that i'm not sure about how to feel about it... I didn't write my comment for you or anyone else, i wrote it because i wanted to express my thoughts on the 2 chapters. I love how you mention "if you don't like the way it's written" like i've even talked about the story in that comment, i was talking about how that specific scene and the manipulation is starting to make me uncomfortable, pretty light thing to say. Rather than telling me to read something else, which makes no sense since i actually like this manhwa, why don't uou stop reading the comments since you can't handle other opinions. You're the only one who "hates" anything here, so i think it's YOU who needs to make a change, not me. Not that i value your spiteful advice enough to take what you say seriously anyways.
Also you’re the one who brought up the hand holding situation if you forgot, and that would be by force. If he had grabbed heesu himself sure that’s be showing possession which he doesn’t have a right to do. But this is a story and author didn’t put this in to be “creepy”. If heesu didn’t want to lay on the guy, when he woke up it would have shown his thoughts by how he didn’t want that to happen. Sheesh.
Ok you’re the obvious person who can’t handle us disagreeing with you bc you’re gettinf so mad shmmm. We just disagreed with you and told you why. You’re the one who continued it by fighting with us. Idiotic. And I’m gonna continue because you started being rude, and I won’t give you any satisfaction for being an asshole.
He didn't physically pull Heesu onto him, what i mean, and i know you know what i mean because i've said this already, is that he arranged for it to happen by glaring at Chanyoung. Heesu ended up on his shoulder because he wanted him there, not for any orher non-romantic reason. Not sure why you're pretending you don't understand what i'm saying. Regardless of if you agree, you understand my viewpoint, i've been pretty thorough in explaining. Heesu is on Seungwon's shoulder because Seungwon has feelings for him and wanted him on his shoulder, this isn't okay since he was already sleeping on Chanyoung's shoulder. He was moved BECAUSE of Seungwon's romantic intent. Neither Chanyoung or Seungwon think Heesu likes Seungwon yet, the limit to their interference should be at physical contact, even if you're trying to help two people get together you don't force romantic contact.
Sure, whatever. I had said you should go anyways.
Again, he DID force the situation to happen, it is the same thing. He could've just left Heesu there, Heesu was moved directly because Seungwon wanted him to be. Doesn't matter that Chanyoung pushed him, that's such a weak argument.
Anyways, i'll let you respond one more time and then i'm blocking you, i wont respond to what you say, i just dont want you writing comments about how i blocked you because i didn't want to hear your opinion or some shit. I'm blocking you because you've been nothing but rude and you just keep spaming the same argument at me that literally just doesn't counter anything i said.
He didn’t imply it at all, he just glared. The other guy choose on his own accord, and it’s the same way. Changyoung doesn’t have feelings for heesu, but it’s almost implied the rest of them think heesu has feelings for him. So having him on him might make it uncomfortable.
And my point is (since you can’t seem to comprehend it): it’s not creepy and you read way to far into it. It’s not that deep. Chill.
It'd be nice if they'd get a damn life. Putting that aside, i really can't decide how i feel about all this... Heesu was asleep, why not just let him sleep? Why does EVERYTHING have to work in Seungwon's favor (to be clear, i'm not blaming him or mad at him, i'm just not understanding what the shoulder thing achieved as Heesu was asleep)? The entire thing was set up to give Seungwon opportunities and keep them together, to the point that Chanyoung was actively pushing Heesu onto Seungwon the entire time since Heesu was gravitating towards him. It feels kind of predatory too, he's asleep and being knowingly pushed onto the shoulder of a guy who has feelings for him. He should have a say in any physical contact with a guy who is going to view the contact through a romantic lense. It only feels okay because of how cute they are, but if you really look at JUST the event, it is worrisome. Would it be okay if 2 guys took their female friend out to a movie, 1 had a crush on her, she fell asleep and was pushed onto that guy's shoulder? It's one thing if SHE fell onto HIS shoulder, but for the guy with the crush to get jealous and glare at the other guy leading to her getting pushed onto him is kinda... Creepy? Though, admittedly Seungwon's love is pure af. What about this, would it be okay for a dude to hold the hand of a sleeping girl in class because he likes her? Yeah, it's cute, but it's an invasion of space. Or another example, as a gay man, if i enter a men's changing room and look around, it's fine, but if i look around at a specific person because i like them and they find out the intent behind my stare, they have a right to be creeped out because i invaded their privacy. It's the same concept here, only a different scenario. The issue isn't how Heesu feels about it, it's that Seungwon knows that he has intimate feelings for Heesu and chose to touch him with that intent while he was sleeping. Idk, i feel like his feelings don't justify what is essentially him touching his unconscious crush out of self interest. The manipulation is getting awkward, tbh. Seeing Heesu just being innocent and naive af while his "friends" try to manipulate his feelings kind of creeps me out a bit. It was less so till now, now it's progressively getting more awkward.