why are people acting like

usagi July 15, 2018 1:37 am

why are people acting like dojin has been an angel from the start when his attitude towards hyesung has clearly changed ever since he got pregnant and he literally raped hyesung
i don't hate dojin, in fact i like him. i liked his cold personality before he realized he wanted to have hyesung's babies AND his post-pregnancy sweet personality but that wasn't always the case so i don't understand why people are acting as if it was. it's like y'all just want to find more reasons to shit on hyesung for no reason
i understand why people wouldn't like hyesung but some people completely ignore what he's going through and the reason for his personality. he's clearly changing as well and i'm 100% sure that those same hyesung haters who love dojin still won't be satisfied even if hyesung changes to become better in the future

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    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 2:16 am

    Because we don't agree with you, i personally think Dojin's treated Hyesung REALLY well the entire story, not just after he "raped" (it is canon that it was an accident, he says this himself AND Hyesung says "his eyes... Get ahold of yourself!" during the scene because he sees Dojin's lost control. No, he didn't use his pheromones to trap Hyesung and rape him or any other nefarious reason like that. He meant to let them out to show Hyesung that he doesn't recognize them because he's never used them on him before, then pull them back in, but he lost control, as he himself says in ch 20. The reason for this is because he had accidentally let slip a small amount of pheromones and Hyesung said "are you threatening me?". He was offended Hyesung was implying he even WOULD threaten him. Heesoo, the beta friend, has established that Dojin doesn't like to use his pheromones on people, he's offended that Hyesung is implying he did it on purpose. I don't personally believe you can rape someone on accident and literally everything we know about rapists says they do it with intent so...) Hyesung. Dojin's been consistently nice to Hyesung the entire manga, what he meant in ch 20 by "i just realized" was that the reason he'd been treating Hyesung so well was because he'd been in love and didn't realize it. Dojin doesn't like omegas because they force out his instincts, he's been confused about Hyesung for a while, but he realized when he found out that Hyesung was pregnant that he'd been in love and THAT'S why he'd been treating him well.

    moon July 15, 2018 5:34 am
    Because we don't agree with you, i personally think Dojin's treated Hyesung REALLY well the entire story, not just after he "raped" (it is canon that it was an accident, he says this himself AND Hyesung says "h... youraedthiswrogn

    Actually in a sense he did trap him, with the baby and the bribe and even if it was an ‘accident’ it was still rape. Not being able to control yourself and also knotting him to get pregnant? He had sex with the boy before and didn’t knot him soooo

    clouds July 15, 2018 5:39 am
    Actually in a sense he did trap him, with the baby and the bribe and even if it was an ‘accident’ it was still rape. Not being able to control yourself and also knotting him to get pregnant? He had sex with... moon

    Indeed. It was indefensible behaviour.

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 9:59 am
    Actually in a sense he did trap him, with the baby and the bribe and even if it was an ‘accident’ it was still rape. Not being able to control yourself and also knotting him to get pregnant? He had sex with... moon

    I disagree, everything we know about rape says that it's done with intent. I don't believe the idea that you can accidentally rape someone. Hyesung didn't get pregnant during that scene- he got pregnant during the scene where he woke Dojin up with a blowjob, straddled him and said "i want a baby". Dojin knotted him instinctually this time, he had never let his pheromone out during any of their past sex scenes, those were all Hyesung's pheromones at play.

    xin July 15, 2018 10:10 am

    youreadthiswrogn
    he forced himself to hyesung when he brought over the omega from the bar thats rape. the baby thing wouldnt have happenef if he listen to heesoo not to let hyesung into his house.

    clouds July 15, 2018 10:22 am
    youreadthiswrogn he forced himself to hyesung when he brought over the omega from the bar thats rape. the baby thing wouldnt have happenef if he listen to heesoo not to let hyesung into his house. xin

    Indeed. Poor Heeso even slept outside Dojin's bedroom door, fat lot of good that was though. Both characters aren't the most likable people, we understand why they behave that way, but at the end of the day, rape is rape. Omegaverse logic only stretches so far, and Hye-sung felt he was attacked, Hye-sung's friend calls Dojin a rapist bastard or something to that effect, which prompted him to specify in the contract that Dojin cannot have any physical contact with him. We know the plot is going to show the move from being bonded by omegaverse logic, to having something more sincere and loving, but that doesn't mean we should over look basic common sense when it comes to identifying what is rape.

    xin July 15, 2018 10:30 am

    its just that im sick of those people pointing their fingers to hyesung to claim all the blame hating him because they like dojin (too much) they dont see the whole story.

    xin July 15, 2018 10:32 am
    Indeed. Poor Heeso even slept outside Dojin's bedroom door, fat lot of good that was though. Both characters aren't the most likable people, we understand why they behave that way, but at the end of the day, r... clouds

    its just that im sick of those people pointing their fingers to hyesung to claim all the blame hating him because they like dojin (too much) they dont see the whole story.

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 10:45 am
    youreadthiswrogn he forced himself to hyesung when he brought over the omega from the bar thats rape. the baby thing wouldnt have happenef if he listen to heesoo not to let hyesung into his house. xin

    Actually no, he was influenced by the pheromones there too, if you look, Dojin says "no, NO!" when he penetrates Hyesung because he doesn't want to have sex with him but can't help it.

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 10:47 am
    its just that im sick of those people pointing their fingers to hyesung to claim all the blame hating him because they like dojin (too much) they dont see the whole story. xin

    It's funny that you talk about people "not seeing the full story" while not knowing it yourself.

    xin July 15, 2018 10:50 am

    the fact that he means no no is clear that his in his right mind that time.

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 10:55 am
    the fact that he means no no is clear that his in his right mind that time. xin

    I'm not looking to change your opinion, you can feel free and believe in accidental rape all you want, but you won't change my mind when i know that LITERALLY anything you can find on the subject of rape will say it's done with intent..

    xin July 15, 2018 10:55 am

    well im seeing the whole picture of the story thats why im saying me pov while u only focus on dojin

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 10:57 am
    the fact that he means no no is clear that his in his right mind that time. xin

    You're wrong again actually, look at the times when Hyesung is in heat, he's able to move, speak and function precisely enough to get Dojin's pants down, but isn't in his right mind. It's the same here.

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 10:59 am
    well im seeing the whole picture of the story thats why im saying me pov while u only focus on dojin xin

    No, i see Hyesung's side too, it's BECAUSE i see how he acts that i dislike him.

    xin July 15, 2018 11:00 am

    of course rape is intent when the other one doesnt want to have sex with you.

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 11:01 am
    of course rape is intent when the other one doesnt want to have sex with you. xin

    Dojin factually didn't want to have sex with Hyesung any of the times they've had sex.

    xin July 15, 2018 11:07 am

    fell free to dislike him. i like how he acts pampered wishy washy being selfies. his side?why his attitute is like that?i totally understand him.

    xin July 15, 2018 11:09 am

    then why did he force himself to hyesung when he was having sex with that omega too? because of pheromones again?huh pathetic

    youraedthiswrogn July 15, 2018 11:17 am
    then why did he force himself to hyesung when he was having sex with that omega too? because of pheromones again?huh pathetic xin

    Yup... That's how the biology between an alpha and an omega works... It's not just a sometimes thing, it's an all the time thing... Especially when they're a fated pair, which these two seem to be. Dojin says "my omega" in ch 20.