Have you seen the raws? I think it was consensual, the author showed what happened that night at around ch54. I don't know, it seemed that way to me
he was drunk, that tells you it wasnt consensual.
Even putting that aside, you can clearly see he's been stalking and manipulating Hosik... He got him drunk on purpose that night, waited till everyone left and then took him home to rape him... It EXPLICITLY shows this. He then wouldn't let Hosik leave and made him give him multiple blowjobs, are you blind? He's clearly got a friendly outer facade with the inside being "crazy", as the blond friend put it.
There are people that have drunk sex. So that means drunk sex is always rape? I don't get it, it doesn't make sense
Are you stupid or just pretending? You know exactly what is being said. No, just being tipsy and agreeing to sex isn't rape, but purposely getting someone smashed and taking them home to fuck while they're passed out is rape. Quit playing dumb.
Did I say something about those stuffs? I'm not defending him. I jut said that it didn't seem like a rape to me after I saw the raws. I know he's acting like a stalker and those blowjobs.. I was like wtf? it was out of blue. I thought of dropping it. I don't know why the author made him like that. But we only read 6 chapters in English. If you haven't seen the raws, I think you should just wait till everything is revealed. (I've seen the raws btw ) He seems like a good father and husband in the raws so I don't know. I need to read it in English
Saying "t didn't seem like rape" is defending him, yes. Obviously... What? Also, idgaf that you "read" the raws, you just looked at the pictures. Nobody said he'd be a bad dad, what was being argued is whether or not it is rape... Which it clearly was... I guess his feelings make it not rape? He got him drunk to the point of passing out and took him home and fucked him.
I just re-read the chapters, I didn't pay attention that drinking part when I first read. I admit it's rape
I just re-read the chapters, I didn't pay attention that drinking part when I first read. I admit it's rape
Oh, okay. Sorry for being harsh, it's just REALLY explicit. :^(
drunk sex isnt always rape, but every time you have sex with someone drunk you are playing a game where you might be unintentionally raping someone. there is no way for you to be able to tell if someone is sober enough to consent to have sex. you have to have consent for it to be sex and not rape.
unless someone tells you when they are sober that it is ok to have sex with them when they are drunk there is no way to know if it is actually ok to have sex with them when they are drunk.
alcohol is considered a date rape drug and the one used most often to perpetrate this type of crime.
Yeah, and there is also a line where you're TOO drunk to consent. When you are no longer in your right mind and can't think properly, you can't give consent. I don't mean this as an opinion, this is the standard adhered to un the court of law. If the person was drunk enough to pass out, they can't give consent, both morally and legally. We saw Hosik pass out at the party before they left, he was already too drunk to consent before whatever the flashback in ch 40 reveals. You can also visibly, easily see that the sunbae used the alcohol as a date rape drug, he got him too drunk to think on purpose. Look back at the scene, he gets him drunk by repeatedly filling his cup and then waits till everyone leaves to "take him home", it shows him watch the last 2 guys leave before saying "alright, lets go too". Him asking permission to fuck Hosik after this was just so that he could say he did and it isn't valid either. Again, not my opinion, i'm talking facts. Even in court it is fact that he was too drunk to consent. I don't think i need to go into morals, it was obviously morally wrong to have sex with someone drunk TO THAT EXTENT. There IS consensual drunk sex, but that wasn't. Hosik considered himself straight, when he woke up the 1st thought was that he was raped, the thought that he might've consented didn't even cross his mind. Do you get that? Gay sex wasn't even an option in his mind, he immediately thought that he was raped.
It has rape like in most yaois.Stop pretending not to understand.Full stop.Nobody says you cannot read that shit.Just accept the seme is a fucking rapist and manipulative asshole like others.