This shit romanticizes rape

I totally agree

Maybe calm yourself, there is no wrong reaction to rape, everyone is different. Do you want him to just fall apart and be a sobbing mess, is that the "right" way to deal with rape? Plus, the whole conscious, unconscious thing, Min wasn't upset with it, so it's hard to really call that rape.

What I’m saying is that the author isn’t showing that rape is horrifying, that’s what i’m angry with. They just keep letting it pass. They just keep having Minjae be all fine with it, that’s a very unusual reaction to getting raped. Im not saying he should kick and scream during the act, but there should be some sort of reaction afterwards. How would Hyeongjo know that Min was fine with it during the whole unconscious, conscious thing? He doesn’t. Maybe Min was fine with it after it happened. But what if it acted out different? What if Min wouldn’t be fine with it? He couldn’t express anything when it happened, it would’ve been rape. That’s why Hyeongjo is a rapist.

I mean, it’s barely even acknowledged that Min is getting raped. We as readers see it. Even if Min doesn’t understand that he got raped there should at least be some sort of reaction

3/10 on your argument here, some big illogical fallacies.

“Everyone is different, there is no wrong reaction to rape.” Um, yes there completely is? Every reaction is valid (which is what I think you actually mean) but that doesn’t mean every reaction is right and good for that person. E.g. “I just got raped and now I’m going to kill myself.” or something relevant, “I’m getting into a relationship with my rapist.” Panda’s point was that rape is a BAD thing, (yes rape is bad) and should be treated as such. But here rape was used as a necessary tool to kick the relationship into gear, which makes it I guess, not so much of a bad thing.

“Do you want him to just fall apart and be a sobbing mess, is that the "right" way to deal with rape?“ So is getting into a relationship with your rapist the “right” way to deal with it then? Panda is completely right, it does romanticize rape. But lol what are you going to do, it’s BL, it’s not like y’all are reading for the plot and the healthy, functional relationships

Thank you! That was such a good and clear explanation!

I think that Minjae is actually a masochist.
In the first chapter Hyeongjo is threatening him and pushing him against the wall. As reaction, Minjae gets flustered and embarassed.
In chapter 3, Hyeongjo threaten Minjae again, choking him and telling him how he looks like a girl. As reaction, Minjae gets hard.

This seems different from the usual dumb romanticized rape yaoi.
It seems like Hyeongjo is threatening Minjae, Minjae gets aroused by that, Hyeongjo gets aroused by the aroused Minjae, they have kinda rape sex.

But everybody reacts different to rape, some are traumatized by it, others are more fine. And as a M, you can even enjoy it.
(Not every M has the same kinks, but I can affirm that some M would enjoy rape)

I suppose he could be, I just think the whole non-consensual thing would still be traumatic for most Ms. Of course everybody reacts differently towards rape, of course some people are more fine. I just don’t agree with how the author portrayed it all, because I kinda think you have a responsibility if you’re including rape to portray it as something bad. Even if the author meant for Minjae to be an M.

You know, I think he doesn't know what he is feeling in the first sex scenes. Because he doesn't admit feelings. But lest one (after he met hyung in the flat full of guys) he hates it.

Oh and also, I think they fell in love because of the past, not because of the rape. Rape was a symbol of their twisted feelings. Kinda