Yes, that's why Rui is good personality than Natsuo. She never betray him but he is not trusting in her. Maybe u r right. She has reason why they broke up because she let someone helps him to write his novelist again. I think Hina or Miyabi.
Whenever Rui had hard times (with her family, with her hand), Natsuo was there for her, unconditionally. ofc she also supported him whenever he had difficulties, but now it is different. And the difference is the "place in life" they are right now.
She is living her dream. Studying abroad under great chefs to become better. He on the other hand is maybe in one of if not the worst place of his life. But still (and I know that, because I was in that situation) he didn't wanted to bother her, since a)she wouldn't be able to do anything but worry and b)he didn't want to ruin her experience. Even "not trusting her" is understandable, if you take that into account. She is having fun (and has a guy around), while he is down to the point of breaking. Of course his self-confidence would be shattered and he would become jealous. And while he also has a girl around (Miyaba), he actually never did anything to earn her distrust. Yes, there are some situations where he didn't acted accordingly, no doubt, but mostly it is really not his fault (while I agree it was unnerving sometimes).
In short: Rui is sacrificing Natsuo for her dream...it is a simple decision between "lover" and "career". I can understand that, but I will never have any sympathy for it.
from ur answer it is easy to see that u have "coloured" the people in this manga with ur personal experience and u r talking from a very painful place. but that being said, u arent right about Rui she maybe living her dream but that doesn't make her situation easy, she is all alone in a foreign country where she has to learn everything from scratch - the language, the people etc, add to that - she's is working around the clock and also studying - that's negligeable to u? why, cause it's what she wants to do?
on top of that she has to worry about her bf - who is known to stray - almost every chapter we have some new or old female sniffing around him and he almost always, takes his time getting out that he isn't interested or that he is Already in a Relationship.
His not confiding in her isn't something new, loads of times she has to corner him - literally - into telling her why he's down etc something that's hard to do on skype... so this time that he's suffering from writer's block (not something new) and turning to a friend instead to his gf is justifiable cause he doesn't want to burden her?! but her rushing back cause she has a few day off and going through all the trouble and expense to come see him (before even her mother) and finding him on his way to meet another girl that she knew had feeling for him - on top of that finding out that he was going through a hard time - and him not confiding in her - then what is the use of their being together? of course she - anyone would say enough.
So cause she is letting him be free - to be with whoever he wants - especially if it's someone he can confide in - then why is she the bad guy?!? cause he cried?!? He can't have his cake and eat it too.
She has always played second fiddle to his wants and needs, from the get go, while he was with her sister and then even after, the fact she is thinking about herself (and as she isn't a self involved person, i believe she broke up with him also thinking it would benefit him in the long run) but let's say for the sake of this argument that she is thinking about herself, only - at long last, doesn't make her a "bad-guy".
I don't hate Natsu or even dislike him, but i think he needs to grow-up, from the start he is a very passive guy that things just happen and he is left to react.. dunno but maybe all that's happening will force him to grow up as - know what he wants and who, let alone what he wants to be...
Ofc it is hard to leave your country and family to be in another country. No doubt about that. But there is one crucial difference: YOU are the one to make that decision. You can chose between your home and this travel. All other people around you can't. They simply can chose between you or "leaving" you. It is a selfish thing to do...and I say that without any kind of judgement. it is something you do for yourself only, every other person has to live with that decision. She always could have choosen not to go, but Natsuo (and every other friend she has) couldn't do that.
And then, when you are truely down and agonized, because life just sucks right now (I think everybody can imagine how hard it must be for a writer to not be able to write), the person you want to be with is living out of reach, seems to have a great time and even gets along with her "new life". Again, from personal experience, you just feel empty and not needed, like you can be easily replaced by anybody. but you also don't want to spread this negativity to your significant other for various reasons...or you shouldn't.
So considering this, when she came back, he was on an alltime-low, she in high-spirit. But which of them freaked out first? Even before she knew about him not being totally honest with her. Ofc he would meet with Serizawa...they are friends. Rui never specifically asked him to not be or meet with her. Still she got mad at him. Yeah okay, hiding was not nice, but to be fair, seeing her reaction, it was justified...
Natsuo is not perfect, by no means. Yes, he really needs to learn how to get off all the girls he seems to meet. But once he was committed to Rui, he never really did anything to break her trust...maybe except that one time he tried to hide Serizawa, that was just plain stupid.
But this...this should be enough to push him over the border. But seeing how this manga works, I assume he will kind of get in a new relationship (Miyabi?), then Rui will return and after some very stretched chapters they will get together. Honestly, I'm annoyed just thinking about this outcome.
Rui and Natsuo worked, because they always gave each other strength. If one of them had a hard time, the other one gave support as much as possible. Rui did break this concept now...for really not a good reason at all.
again from ur answer i get that u r very hurt and i can get where sometimes we feel like the story/manga we r reading or the characters we encounter remind us of us and our lives. but in this case and going on what i've been reading from the start i feel ur emotionally empathizing too much with Natsu and he isn't such a pure soul, who is to blame (partially if not totally) for the prb's he gets into.
agree that Rui's trials and tribulations in a foreign land r her choice - so if it's tough, no biggy - her choice. and lets even agree that she is having the time of her life while everyone else back home is put on the back burner while she is living - they r what? frozen? will reanimate only when she come back into their lives?!?
ur talking as if she is a party animal and not gone there to study and learn a vocation. not to mention that she's coming back and lets not forget that she had a tough time making the choice to leave - but that's beside the point cause the fact that she left is being held against her as if she abandoned Natsu (who has a life and has been living it quite happily until the recent crises) .
So even when she chooses to do a good deed and come visit in a timeline where i'm sure i would rather relax and just unwind then spend my holiday on planes traveling to reunite with family let alone loved ones (and not cause i'm heartless, but realistic and know how tough it is to study all day and then work all night and not have a moment spare to breath - so down time is to sleep/relax. but maybe i'm weird that i think loved ones will be understanding and not only demanding)... and so Rui surprising Natsu cause she had a feeling he was down and then finding out he was going to see someone that she knew was not only interested in him but that she caught in his room in sexy underwear - yeah she is so in the wrong to feel hurt.
u wrote that Natsu wasnt perfect but after he committed to Rui, he never really did anything to break her trust...maybe except that one time - really one time??? just once? ur forgetting about the countless blunders with Hina? and all the other chicks that he's has flirted with?? yeah when it gets too real he backs off saying that he's got a gf but Natsu so isn't the perfect bf. not by a long shot. and saying they were good for each other cause they always had each others backs - yeah but Rui had his back more than he had hers and he certainly cause her more heartache then she ever did to him.
i don't know who he will end up with - maybe the only person he can be and was loyal too was Hina - maybe it is the first love thing. other wise and with his passive personality i don't think he will succeed with anyone else. About Rui i have a feeling that the guy she is studying with - she may end up with him, or maybe its wishful thinking as he is much more mature than Natsu and i think she (or anyone for that matter) needs someone like that guy in her life...
Never said he was a "pure soul" - but again, who is? Rui was kind of "clean" on that regard, but that did go in the bin with this.
Maybe I overreaded it, but I don't think she did come back because he was "feeling down". It was more like she missed him and flew back because of that. That really is sweet...but nothing selfless.
And no, of course everybody else does not freeze...but that is my point. naturally Natsuo would spent time with his friends, including Miyabi. If Rui didn't liked that, she should had asked him not to meet with her.
Actually yes, Natsuo never really failed her trust after he was committed. Ofc there were "scenes" with Hina, but what should he do, seperate from her? In the end, she still was his sister. And I can't think of any moment were he really acted against that believe. Yes, there were some ecchi-scenes, but hey, this in an ecchi-manga, so of course this will happen from time to time. But it never was serious...atleast not from his point of view.
"Rui did have his back more than he had hers"...he supported her in her whole "dreamjob"-thing, including a one-year leave. She got mad at him when he accidently had to spent one night(!) away from her. So sorry if I really doubt that.
Rui is "mature"? Since when? Throwing a ruckus for every little problem is not that mature. Ending a relationship because of...well, actually no good reason at all is not that mature either. And if she (as you hope) really would run off with the next best choice - the perfect bf aka. a person with zero personality - she honestly would (for me) drop on the last spot on the girls list for this manga.
If you want to compare: Hina ended the relationship, left her family, friends and job and even denied the chance of getting back with the person she truely loves, just because it would be better for him and his future. Since I really liked Rui until those last chapters I can't believe I'm saying this, but that is the difference between those sisters. Hina "sacrificed" her own "life"/happiness for the person she loves, because she knew she would do more damage to him and his future if she would stay. Rui on the other hand "sacrificed" her love, because she...yeah, still don't get it. Thinks she is turning into a person that cares too much? Is afraid of being dependened on the person she wanted (and wants?) to spent her life with?
Whatever it was, "mature" is not the word that comes to mind for it. More like "incredibly childhish".
Never said he was a "pure soul" - but again, who is? Rui was kind of "clean" on that regard, but that did go in the bin with this.
Maybe I overreaded it, but I don't think she did come back because he was "feeling down". It was more like she missed him and flew back because of that. That really is sweet...but nothing selfless.
And no, of course everybody else does not freeze...but that is my point. naturally Natsuo would spent time with his friends, including Miyabi. If Rui didn't liked that, she should had asked him not to meet with her.
Actually yes, Natsuo never really failed her trust after he was committed. Ofc there were "scenes" with Hina, but what should he do, seperate from her? In the end, she still was his sister. And I can't think of any moment were he really acted against that believe. Yes, there were some ecchi-scenes, but hey, this in an ecchi-manga, so of course this will happen from time to time. But it never was serious...atleast not from his point of view.
"Rui did have his back more than he had hers"...he supported her in her whole "dreamjob"-thing, including a one-year leave. She got mad at him when he accidently had to spent one night(!) away from her. So sorry if I really doubt that.
Rui is "mature"? Since when? Throwing a ruckus for every little problem is not that mature. Ending a relationship because of...well, actually no good reason at all is not that mature either. And if she (as you hope) really would run off with the next best choice - the perfect bf aka. a person with zero personality - she honestly would (for me) drop on the last spot on the girls list for this manga.
If you want to compare: Hina ended the relationship, left her family, friends and job and even denied the chance of getting back with the person she truely loves, just because it would be better for him and his future. Since I really liked Rui until those last chapters I can't believe I'm saying this, but that is the difference between those sisters. Hina "sacrificed" her own "life"/happiness for the person she loves, because she knew she would do more damage to him and his future if she would stay. Rui on the other hand "sacrificed" her loved one, because she...yeah, still don't get it. Thinks she is turning into a person that cares too much? Is afraid of being dependened on the person she wanted (and wants?) to spent her life with?
Whatever it was, "mature" is not the word that comes to mind for it. More like "incredibly childhish".
Never said he was a "pure soul" - but again, who is? Rui was kind of "clean" on that regard, but that did go in the bin with this.
Maybe I overreaded it, but I don't think she did come back because he was "feeling down". It was more like she missed him and flew back because of that. That really is sweet...but nothing selfless.
And no, of course everybody else does not freeze...but that is my point. naturally Natsuo would spent time with his friends, including Miyabi. If Rui didn't liked that, she should had asked him not to meet with her.
Actually yes, Natsuo never really failed her trust after he was committed. Ofc there were "scenes" with Hina, but what should he do, seperate from her? In the end, she still was his sister. And I can't think of any moment were he really acted against that believe. Yes, there were some ecchi-scenes, but hey, this in an ecchi-manga, so of course this will happen from time to time. But it never was serious...atleast not from his point of view.
"Rui did have his back more than he had hers"...he supported her in her whole "dreamjob"-thing, including a one-year leave. She got mad at him when he accidently had to spent one night(!) away from her. So sorry if I really doubt that.
Rui is "mature"? Since when? Throwing a ruckus for every little problem is not that mature. Ending a relationship because of...well, actually no good reason at all is not that mature either. And if she (as you hope) really would run off with the next best choice - the perfect bf aka. a person with zero personality - she honestly would (for me) drop on the last spot on the girls list for this manga.
If you want to compare: Hina ended the relationship, left her family, friends and job and even denied the chance of getting back with the person she truely loves, just because it would be better for him and his future. Since I really liked Rui until those last chapters I can't believe I'm saying this, but that is the difference between those sisters. Hina "sacrificed" her own "life"/happiness for the person she loves, because she knew she would do more damage to him and his future if she would stay. Rui on the other hand "sacrificed" her loved one, because she...yeah, still don't get it. Thinks she is turning into a person that cares too much? Is afraid of being dependened on the person she wanted (and wants?) to spent her life with?
Whatever it was, "mature" is not the word that comes to mind for it. More like "incredibly childhish".
Never said he was a "pure soul" - but again, who is? Rui was kind of "clean" on that regard, but that did go in the bin with this.
Maybe I overreaded it, but I don't think she did come back because he was "feeling down". It was more like she missed him and flew back because of that. That really is sweet...but nothing selfless.
And no, of course everybody else does not freeze...but that is my point. naturally Natsuo would spent time with his friends, including Miyabi. If Rui didn't liked that, she should had asked him not to meet with her.
Actually yes, Natsuo never really failed her trust after he was committed. Ofc there were "scenes" with Hina, but what should he do, seperate from her? In the end, she still was his sister. And I can't think of any moment were he really acted against that believe. Yes, there were some ecchi-scenes, but hey, this in an ecchi-manga, so of course this will happen from time to time. But it never was serious...atleast not from his point of view.
"Rui did have his back more than he had hers"...he supported her in her whole "dreamjob"-thing, including a one-year leave. She got mad at him when he accidently had to spent one night(!) away from her. So sorry if I really doubt that.
Rui is "mature"? Since when? Throwing a ruckus for every little problem is not that mature. Ending a relationship because of...well, actually no good reason at all is not that mature either. And if she (as you hope) really would run off with the next best choice - the perfect bf aka. a person with zero personality - she honestly would (for me) drop on the last spot on the girls list for this manga.
If you want to compare: Hina ended the relationship, left her family, friends and job and even denied the chance of getting back with the person she truely loves, just because it would be better for him and his future. Since I really liked Rui until those last chapters I can't believe I'm saying this, but that is the difference between those sisters. Hina "sacrificed" her own "life"/happiness for the person she loves, because she knew she would do more damage to him and his future if she would stay. Rui on the other hand "sacrificed" her loved one, because she...yeah, still don't get it. Thinks she is turning into a person that cares too much? Is afraid of being dependened on the person she wanted (and wants?) to spent her life with?
Whatever it was, "mature" is not the word that comes to mind for it. More like "incredibly childhish".
Never said he was a "pure soul" - but again, who is? Rui was kind of "clean" on that regard, but that did go in the bin with this.
Maybe I overreaded it, but I don't think she did come back because he was "feeling down". It was more like she missed him and flew back because of that. That really is sweet...but nothing selfless.
And no, of course everybody else does not freeze...but that is my point. naturally Natsuo would spent time with his friends, including Miyabi. If Rui didn't liked that, she should had asked him not to meet with her.
Actually yes, Natsuo never really failed her trust after he was committed. Ofc there were "scenes" with Hina, but what should he do, seperate from her? In the end, she still was his sister. And I can't think of any moment were he really acted against that believe. Yes, there were some ecchi-scenes, but hey, this in an ecchi-manga, so of course this will happen from time to time. But it never was serious...atleast not from his point of view.
"Rui did have his back more than he had hers"...he supported her in her whole "dreamjob"-thing, including a one-year leave. She got mad at him when he accidently had to spent one night(!) away from her. So sorry if I really doubt that.
Rui is "mature"? Since when? Throwing a ruckus for every little problem is not that mature. Ending a relationship because of...well, actually no good reason at all is not that mature either. And if she (as you hope) really would run off with the next best choice - the perfect bf aka. a person with zero personality - she honestly would (for me) drop on the last spot on the girls list for this manga.
If you want to compare: Hina ended the relationship, left her family, friends and job and even denied the chance of getting back with the person she truely loves, just because it would be better for him and his future. Since I really liked Rui until those last chapters I can't believe I'm saying this, but that is the difference between those sisters. Hina "sacrificed" her own "life"/happiness for the person she loves, because she knew she would do more damage to him and his future if she would stay. Rui on the other hand "sacrificed" her loved one, because she...yeah, still don't get it. Thinks she is turning into a person that cares too much? Is afraid of being dependened on the person she wanted (and wants?) to spent her life with?
Whatever it was, "mature" is not the word that comes to mind for it. More like "incredibly childhish".
Never said he was a "pure soul" - but again, who is? Rui was kind of "clean" on that regard, but that did go in the bin with this.
Maybe I overreaded it, but I don't think she did come back because he was "feeling down". It was more like she missed him and flew back because of that. That really is sweet...but nothing selfless.
And no, of course everybody else does not freeze...but that is my point. naturally Natsuo would spent time with his friends, including Miyabi. If Rui didn't liked that, she should had asked him not to meet with her.
Actually yes, Natsuo never really failed her trust after he was committed. Ofc there were "scenes" with Hina, but what should he do, seperate from her? In the end, she still was his sister. And I can't think of any moment were he really acted against that believe. Yes, there were some ecchi-scenes, but hey, this in an ecchi-manga, so of course this will happen from time to time. But it never was serious...atleast not from his point of view.
"Rui did have his back more than he had hers"...he supported her in her whole "dreamjob"-thing, including a one-year leave. She got mad at him when he accidently had to spent one night(!) away from her. So sorry if I really doubt that.
Rui is "mature"? Since when? Throwing a ruckus for every little problem is not that mature. Ending a relationship because of...well, actually no good reason at all is not that mature either. And if she (as you hope) really would run off with the next best choice - the perfect bf aka. a person with zero personality - she honestly would (for me) drop on the last spot on the girls list for this manga.
If you want to compare: Hina ended the relationship, left her family, friends and job and even denied the chance of getting back with the person she truely loves, just because it would be better for him and his future. Since I really liked Rui until those last chapters I can't believe I'm saying this, but that is the difference between those sisters. Hina "sacrificed" her own "life"/happiness for the person she loves, because she knew she would do more damage to him and his future if she would stay. Rui on the other hand "sacrificed" her loved one, because she...yeah, still don't get it. Thinks she is turning into a person that cares too much? Is afraid of being dependened on the person she wanted (and wants?) to spent her life with?
Whatever it was, "mature" is not the word that comes to mind for it. More like "incredibly childhish".
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happens to the best of us.. about ur other reply - feel it's useless to get into it - cause i don't agree but that's the obvious - that we wont see eye to eye, so never mind...
He just needs to get rid of HINA once and for all. What an ass.
seem to think she is abandoning him at a time where he is already down - "not a gr8 reflection on her", cause u want the person u love to stand by u when ur in trouble etc.. but i get Rui - how many times has she had to just take it - cause Natsu was undecisive or confused or had other problems - she had to just be strong and put her personal feeling on hold and be there for him - understanding, forgiving ,accepting etc in whatever capacity he needed.
Get that this is a Natsu story so everything revolves around him but enough is enough, she also has a life outside Natsu-land and as he can't use her to fill his writer's block - she can't be expected to always be the forgiving understanding one in this relationship - she NEEDS to put herself first and distancing herself from him - its a step in the right direction. if they're meant to be maybe when he grows up a bit and finds out who he really wants (from all the harm that's always around him - that he So keeps flirting with - i.e not one sided) maybe then it would be a relationship worth being in for both of them. don't see it happening given what who Natsu is but maybe i'm wrong.