To the person who keeps trolling people's posts with the same 'Ivan is rapist, Alek is not...

Grow up March 17, 2019 3:19 pm

To the person who keeps trolling people's posts with the same 'Ivan is rapist, Alek is not' post:
You are disgusting and dishonest.

I have called you out before for hanging around here posting the same disingenuous trite about a character rape while excusing the other.
The story is very clear that BOTH SNAKES are using the imprint when having sex with Hen. If you don't know what qualifies as sex and think that only a dick inside a hole is sex, you need to reeducate yourself. If you think rape is only about inserting a dick, also reeducate yourself. If you are going to rant about rape and consent in this story, you have absolutely no character to root for. ALEK IS ALSO A RAPIST BY THE VERY SAME STANDARD you are using against Ivan.
Besides changing the story to fit your interpretation .... Ivan and Hen were both drunk in the first sex and the imprint was not intentional nor forced. Hen is not more sex slave to Ivan than he is to Alek and the later has no qualms in taking advantage of the imprint.
You have a preference for a ship and character ( Alek ) and it's frustrated by the way the story is going. That's okay and natural. However, it's really frustrating seeing adult people tackle arguments like rape and consent so dishonestly just to put some cloud of morality over something so shallow and stupid like ship wars.
Grow up. Be more serious and honest when talking about rape and consent. It's totally understandable to stay away of this story if the imprint plot sounds questionable to you. However, the fact that you pick IVan behavior as rape and actually have the nerve to excuse Alek abusing and taking advantage of Hen only shows that you don't give a shit about the issue. Your only problem is a butt hurt that won't go away and instead of being candid and honest like most people who just want a ship over other, you paint yourself as some kind of moral warrior.
You are trying to shame people who like Ivan while painting Alek as better when he is not. The shame is on you. (︶︿︶)=凸

Responses
    Saya March 17, 2019 3:42 pm

    Ivan is no rapist... I had drunk one night stand before. ...was that considered being raped .....I think not...and every time Ivan had sex with hen it was consented.....plus Ivan and hen love each other so you lose...leave my Ivan alone...

    FangirlQueen99 March 17, 2019 4:06 pm

    Amazing speech *applause*

    Anonymous March 17, 2019 4:07 pm
    Ivan is no rapist... I had drunk one night stand before. ...was that considered being raped .....I think not...and every time Ivan had sex with hen it was consented.....plus Ivan and hen love each other so ... Saya

    The car sex scene was clearly rape.

    Anonymous March 17, 2019 4:14 pm
    The car sex scene was clearly rape. @Anonymous

    So is every sex with penetrative acts... Hen also doesn't give consent to Alek to finger him at his will and still he does because he is playing with Hen.
    Alek is a rapist too so stop with your bullshit trying to sound you are better than anyone.
    You stan a creepy sexual predator who calls his employee to his office and takes advantage of his imprint to jerk him off, finger and play with him when he doesn't even like him. What give you the moral superiority to say your character is better than Ivan? Hypocrite.

    Zarathustra March 17, 2019 4:29 pm

    It's the plague with every love triangle story.
    A lot of readers prefer not to just be candid in admitting a simple preference so they come up with some kind of morally superior motive to shame the other side.
    After the argument is debunked and pushed back ( like this clear double standard for Ivan and Alek about consent), then they start changing the tone. Especially if it becomes clear that the endgame is the other ship that they don't like.
    In order to give the impression of impartiality, once the endgame is clear, soon enough we are going to see the same anon 'agreeing' that Alek is also taking advantage and trashing all characters in general and the story as a plot.

    Anonymous March 17, 2019 4:36 pm
    So is every sex with penetrative acts... Hen also doesn't give consent to Alek to finger him at his will and still he does because he is playing with Hen. Alek is a rapist too so stop with your bullshit trying ... @Anonymous

    Alessandro has sexually assaulted Hen, yes. But no one is making him out to be a perfect, whiter than white saint. Ivan raped Hen. Sorry if you like the character, but the author has written a rape plot.

    M00N March 17, 2019 4:39 pm
    It's the plague with every love triangle story. A lot of readers prefer not to just be candid in admitting a simple preference so they come up with some kind of morally superior motive to shame the other side. ... Zarathustra

    ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍ true people also forget.........................................................its very much fiction and like involve magic and stuff so yah

    Anonymous March 17, 2019 5:31 pm
    Alessandro has sexually assaulted Hen, yes. But no one is making him out to be a perfect, whiter than white saint. Ivan raped Hen. Sorry if you like the character, but the author has written a rape plot. @Anonymous

    You are a bit slow, aint' ya? Who is again making Ivan perfect? There are two characters in this story. If you are up your ass about rape and consent, there is nobody for you to like. Not Ivan, not Alek.
    "Alessandro has sexually assaulted Hen, yes" .... exactly. So what makes him better than Ivan again? Even more if Alek treats Hen as as play toy just to get back at Ivan?
    Girl, you have no stone to stand on. If you are going to apply a moral rule to like any of the characters, what are you reading this story for?
    You are so stupid that if your boss calls you to his office and use your vulnerability to finger you, you won't know you have been 'raped'. Repeat slowly with me so you don't lose your innocence out there: 'Alek raped Hen, too'. So if both are not saint, and you still hang around here only trashing Ivan, are you mentally challenged to understand the point everybody is saying? There are no ships for you in this story unless you applied your very hypocrite logic that you only talk about Ivan raping Hen and not Alek because your shitty character is not getting the spotlight. Alek is a rapist too so what's left for you here?

    Anonymous March 17, 2019 5:36 pm
    You are a bit slow, aint' ya? Who is again making Ivan perfect? There are two characters in this story. If you are up your ass about rape and consent, there is nobody for you to like. Not Ivan, not Alek. "Ale... @Anonymous

    tldr after you made an immature personal attack over a fictional character. Why assume that just because I'm pointing out Ivan's flaws, seeing as he is apparently gods gift that Alessandro is also not a perpetrator of sexual crimes? The bulk of the comments here have only been about slagging off Alessandro and saying Hen should be with Ivan, when both of these men are in the wrong, and Ivan is a rapist, he even says he has no morals and will take advantage of the non-consenting Hen.

    Prick White Snake March 17, 2019 7:58 pm
    tldr after you made an immature personal attack over a fictional character. Why assume that just because I'm pointing out Ivan's flaws, seeing as he is apparently gods gift that Alessandro is also not a perpet... @Anonymous

    As you said yourself, both are perpetrator of sexual crimes, alas, your posts are all about Ivan. More to the point, if both are rapists and you dislike the plot, why are you still hanging around here posting the same shit over and over after each chapter?
    Do you think you can fool anyone? Your butt hurt is about ship, nothing to do with morals. Hypocrite.

    Anonymous March 17, 2019 9:40 pm
    As you said yourself, both are perpetrator of sexual crimes, alas, your posts are all about Ivan. More to the point, if both are rapists and you dislike the plot, why are you still hanging around here posting t... @Prick White Snake

    No one is defending Alessandro though, but are supporting Ivan and Hen as a couple. This is warped, Ivan is a rapist. Hen shouldn't be with any of them.

    miah March 18, 2019 12:35 am
    No one is defending Alessandro though, but are supporting Ivan and Hen as a couple. This is warped, Ivan is a rapist. Hen shouldn't be with any of them. @Anonymous

    Yeah I would like the imprint to go away, and Hen find a howl sweet guy that would take his heart.
    I don`t like Alek, but I didn't like the car sceane... I rooting for none of them, but Hen`s happiness (=・ω・=)

    Saya March 18, 2019 10:29 am
    The car sex scene was clearly rape. @Anonymous

    No it was not ... he told Ivan "give me this " he was asking for it... and Ivan tried so hard to not touch hen... but lost to hens aggressiveness at the end... you just see everything as rape.. and if you have a problem with these kinds of manga then you should not read them.....