Conflicted

Kumo April 24, 2019 10:51 pm

I didn't finished before to read the entire novel (left after chapter 73) mostly because it was exhausting to read with google translate, but now that there is a very nicely translated version in spanish I'm starting to see the characters under a different point of view and I'm starting to feel something dissapointed of He Zhishu. Does somebody else whom have readed the entire novel have the same feeling?

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    Kumo April 29, 2019 9:28 am
    Oh a lot people thought shizu really suffer 10 yearsShizu suffered 4 yearsRest of that they are happy together When shizu parents found out they are coupleShizu mom beat him with broomBut jian wenxu cover him a... Sitchan

    About the times, I have trouble to realize the logic of some events in the development of the entire story.

    For example, it is stated that Jiang Wenxu had a relationship with the affair for over 3 years, but also that the affair take the ring the first night they slept together, so, He Zhishu realized the missing of the ring after 3 years? I think there is something wrong.

    The same about the friendship between Ai Ziyu and He Zhishu, it seems there was a mention that stated Ai Ziyu had met He Zhishu for the last 10 years. However, I understanded that He Zhishu was diagnosed of his sickness in november and dead in january of the next year, so they only met each other for over 3 months and not those 10 years mentioned. However, this might be a translation error.

    About the parents. As far as I understand, they died after He Zhishu elopes with Jiang Wenxu, but they eloped 14 years before the start of the novel, so, if things are that way, He Zhishu was happy with Jiang Wenxu even after the death of his parents. If that were somehow true, I don't know what meaning could have that.

    That are the few things I remember by the time. Would need to reed the entire novel to thing about it in a more detailed way, but right now I just want to end with the ending where He Zhishu realizes Jiang Wenxu's feelings afther his death and decided to stay with him all the rest of Jiang Wenxu's life.

    Sitchan April 29, 2019 10:47 am

    My reason its
    im remember when shizu say to doctor Ai
    'im just have my body'
    And in novel get explain doctor Ai have face and aura like 17th jian wenxu

    Im agree with you shizu keep silent make him in that situation
    but he's also have reason
    Knowing beloved one cheating and love him until dead
    Of course he can't easy say whatever he want
    Its like really painful until can't say anything

    This novel really painful in many ways
    All characters get a lot torture
    And I just can't say someone must be wrong one

    being-you April 30, 2019 5:42 am
    Sorry but I can see nothing but rape apologia, here. Especially #7. Feeling guilty over something is not a crime. That's exactly what you painted it as, whether you want to believe that or not. And if the uke h... Sachiko

    100% shipped this

    ninchi_cat April 30, 2019 8:51 am
    Sorry but I can see nothing but rape apologia, here. Especially #7. Feeling guilty over something is not a crime. That's exactly what you painted it as, whether you want to believe that or not. And if the uke h... Sachiko

    well said Sachiko. I stop reading Kumo's opinion from number 2. It somehow triggered me when I read it. Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
    sorry Kumo, hope you didn't mind it. (⌒▽⌒)

    Kumo April 30, 2019 10:31 am
    well said Sachiko. I stop reading Kumo's opinion from number 2. It somehow triggered me when I read it. Σ(っ°Д °;)っ sorry Kumo, hope you didn't mind it. (⌒▽⌒) ninchi_cat

    I don't mind it. I admit I was a little biased against He Zhishu after read he slept with Ai Ziyu. That hurt me a lot and that was the trigger that led me think all those things.

    After all, I understanded He Zhishu loved Jiang Wenxu even after his death, so, I'm kind of satisfied with that conclusion.

    However, there are still those little details that I don't know if they are errors or holes in the story, like, the matter with the lost ring discovered after 3 years being missed... Why took so many time to realized that? That kind of details is what lead me to think He Zhishu also created his distance from Jiang Wenxu (but please, don't kill me for that statement, I'm not excusing Jiang Wenxu cheating because of that).

    Anyway, I feel like I don't want to ask more about it. Neither of them were saints but both of them deserved be happy. My ship was He Zhishu with reformed Jiang Wenxu and I hope they could be happy in a second life, since I like to belive both of them were destinated souls.

    Sitchan April 30, 2019 3:51 pm
    I don't mind it. I admit I was a little biased against He Zhishu after read he slept with Ai Ziyu. That hurt me a lot and that was the trigger that led me think all those things.After all, I understanded He Zhi... Kumo

    Kumo.... Im stand with you about
    The ship....
    You.. When you read a whole novel
    You get the feeling don't you?
    The feeling they are can be happy if together...

    Now, i think i have friend
    We can get all diss together hahaha
    Im sorry (▰˘◡˘▰) im weird

    Sitchan April 30, 2019 3:56 pm
    I don't mind it. I admit I was a little biased against He Zhishu after read he slept with Ai Ziyu. That hurt me a lot and that was the trigger that led me think all those things.After all, I understanded He Zhi... Kumo

    Oh about that ring
    In my translation
    Jian wenxu ring get stolen by his young man
    And shizu pretending 'fine'
    this scene make me cry a lot
    After shizu throw the ring and jian wenxu found it under the table or whatever that because he collapse in floor
    He's hug shizu ring and his ring
    Its say 'after 2 years two ring be together again'
    Its a bit confusing but im still cry

    Kumo April 30, 2019 10:44 pm
    Kumo.... Im stand with you aboutThe ship.... You.. When you read a whole novelYou get the feeling don't you? The feeling they are can be happy if together... Now, i think i have friendWe can get all diss togeth... Sitchan

    Brother Sitchan, I agree with you. Actually I want to believe they could be able to stay together, since He Zhishu choosed to stay with Jiang Wenxu in the lake. A bittersweet ending.

    Thank you for your words, I'm glad too to know they is somebody else who also praises them. We have became friends :)

    kirishimahoe February 4, 2021 4:07 pm
    Sorry but I can see nothing but rape apologia, here. Especially #7. Feeling guilty over something is not a crime. That's exactly what you painted it as, whether you want to believe that or not. And if the uke h... Sachiko

    girlllll im so fucking agree with all ur point. i love u so much