About Rin and Taiga

Amberwaves April 28, 2019 12:07 pm

The mangaka is obviously taking serious issue about the whole "fated pairs" in omegaverse, and about time. Yuka and Kaoru are obviously representing the case for love. But what is more interesting is what Rin and Taiga represent.

Rin represents the instinctive side of things. He feels like he must have Kaoru because of all his physical needs. It's easy to sympathasize with him, but at the same time he is also selfishly disregarding both the actual feelings of Karoru and Yuka in this. He considers that because they are a fated pair nothing else matters. A view that is too often generally accepted in omegaverse, and stories are written to accommodate it so it ends happily.

Taiga on the other hand, started out believing in fated pairs, but has slowly, it seems, started to question it. He is the opposite of Rin. He wanted a fated pair for the relationship they would have, the bond, because he knew he could trust it, as it would be unbreakable. Now it would seem he realizes that it is meaningless if it just ties two people together against their will. Moreover he is the one who tries to tell Rin it would hurt people if he was to get his "fated pair".

So is Rin really not capable of understanding that people would be hurt, that what he feels is not love, or of letting go? How much of this is because he wants a "fated pair" for himself and the security of it, and could if he wanted to resist his instincts? To find real happiness with someone who wants him and cares for him rather than the easy illusion of it that is a "fated pair".

Responses
    peachiitoru April 28, 2019 1:13 pm

    this needs way more upvotes lolol this is such a good explanation~ (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Diana April 28, 2019 4:03 pm

    this freaking fated pair is something like a "mate" in werewolves stories on wattpad. As much as i read there i came to conclusion that one can't always end up with their mate and can mate with others but not with someone that already has a mate. The only loophole is that there is a rejection in those stories. It's true that having a fated pair is for a reason so we can't deny that and this story is bound to end tragically ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Amberwaves April 28, 2019 4:30 pm
    this freaking fated pair is something like a "mate" in werewolves stories on wattpad. As much as i read there i came to conclusion that one can't always end up with their mate and can mate with others but not w... Diana

    Not sure it is quite the same. I haven't seen anything in werewolf lore that would equate to the "bite" function in omegaverse. With werewolves that only happens between mates, and then both parties are usually mated or both not. In omegaverse I don't quite understand how someone who was bitten by someone who wasn't their "fated partner" would react if they later met their "fated pair". In many stories it is more than hinted that biting omegas that alphas are less than serious about is not uncommon. It seems like there are two contradicting ways to form pairs, and the more common one undermines the chances of the rarer one of being formed.

    Diana April 29, 2019 5:37 pm
    Not sure it is quite the same. I haven't seen anything in werewolf lore that would equate to the "bite" function in omegaverse. With werewolves that only happens between mates, and then both parties are usually... Amberwaves

    Well actually, i have read stories where the bite has the same function as in omegaverse. (In heat you need the partner, you can't be with someone else because od the bite which causes pain or even death of the partner or the person themselves) It honestly depens on the author (manga or wattpad) just now i am reading a story where fated pairs are very rare (they always are) so people mate or mark someone that isn't their true mate, so yes you can mate with someone other than your true mate.

    So about the "pull" you feel, that only happens with true mates or in omegaverse when an omega is in heat and attracts alphas, otherwise the omega and the alpha can feel it even if they aren't in heat. That's one difference between those "parallel worlds".
    Also in omegaverse the omega goes into heat when they mature but in werewolf stories they only(?) go into heat after they mate or have the mark. That also depends on the author.

    Amberwaves April 29, 2019 6:51 pm
    Well actually, i have read stories where the bite has the same function as in omegaverse. (In heat you need the partner, you can't be with someone else because od the bite which causes pain or even death of the... Diana

    That wasn't quite what I meant by "bite function". I meant that while in werewolf lore the bite seems to form a bond both ways (or not both ways) whether or not the mating is true mating or not, while in omegaverse it seems to function somewhat differently. There it can be used to form a pair if that is what the alpha wants, but it can also be used and abused by alphas in a very casual way, with the same drastic results for the omega and no consequence to the alpha. If an omega once bitten is unable to have a relationship with anyone other than the alpha who bit him, this would seem somewhat problematic in the long run and unsustainable if it really is culturally acceptable for alphas to run around and bite omegas they aren't in a committed relationship with. Yet that is exactly what so many stories would seem to indicate. It would make it far less likely that those omegas (and alphas) would ever have a chance of finding a "fated pair".
    When you consider that an omega goes into puberty at a young age, and at that point becomes a walking target that somehow has to survive without being bitten or forming a pair with someone (and being bitten) before some day possibly meeting his or her fated pair that lives who knows where compared to them, it just seems that the odds are not only against it, but the whole "bite" thing makes it all the more unlikely to happen.

    Diana April 29, 2019 8:45 pm
    That wasn't quite what I meant by "bite function". I meant that while in werewolf lore the bite seems to form a bond both ways (or not both ways) whether or not the mating is true mating or not, while in omegav... Amberwaves

    Humm you're right, it is unfair that alphas are free to form a harem of omegas but omegas are bound to one alpha, there is a manga like that. I haven't really focused so much on it but i definitely read about it.
    But i sure did read that when in pair the alpha wouldn't react to the smell of another omega the way they did or the need to make them theirs is reduced to a point. So when you think about it, it does effect them in a way. That's way forming a pair can be in favor of both people that want to avoid a situation where they are more instinct than reason.

    Amberwaves April 29, 2019 11:04 pm
    Humm you're right, it is unfair that alphas are free to form a harem of omegas but omegas are bound to one alpha, there is a manga like that. I haven't really focused so much on it but i definitely read about i... Diana

    Aside from the fact that I haven't seen anything about alphas in pairs not reacting (other than by shear will, it generally is an ignored problem) to other omegas, that wasn't really the point. Since in omegaverse a bite doesn't automatically form a pair for both (or not for both) the way it does in werewolf lore it is not the same. Alphas can bite omegas who then are tied to that alpha without the reverse being the case. For life it seems. And the alpha can do this multiple times before pairing up with someone, whether or not that someone is a "fated pair". Meanwhile the omegas can't move on to other partners. Not sure what happens if the alpha dies.
    There is absolutely nothing like this werewolf lore. So a "bite" functions in a different way in omegaverse than it does in werewolf lore. With werewolves to be bitten is basically the same as mating for both. The same can't be said in omegaverse. There you'd need the details and context before you could say whether a bitten omega was actually in a pair or not.

    Diana April 30, 2019 7:52 am
    Aside from the fact that I haven't seen anything about alphas in pairs not reacting (other than by shear will, it generally is an ignored problem) to other omegas, that wasn't really the point. Since in omegave... Amberwaves

    So i get what you mean and i understand it. It surely isn't the same but it has similarities not the including the bite. So you're saying that even if the omega is bitten you can't tell if they have a pair? And they can be easily left alone and not be able to function well BUT the alpha can bite another omega and they live happily ever after.

    Amberwaves April 30, 2019 4:40 pm
    So i get what you mean and i understand it. It surely isn't the same but it has similarities not the including the bite. So you're saying that even if the omega is bitten you can't tell if they have a pair? And... Diana

    Essentially. That in omegaverse the bite is binding only on the omega and not the alpha who is still free to bite another. This story has already twice indicated the various problems with that. First when Taiga in the beginning says something jokingly about biting omegas and tossing them aside, even if he's not serious it hints that it does happen and is to a certain extent socially acceptable. (Compare it to f.ex. if it had been our world and he had joked about raping a girl, that would probably have made the other guys react, but finding a girl for just for sex wouldn't.) Later when Taiga is trying to explain to Rin the consequences of what will happen to Yuka should he get his pair. In both cases it shows different ways omegas can be bitten and left by alphas.
    The funny thing is last night I did seem to recall that I had come across a story or two that had an alternative version of how the "bite" functioned in omegaverse. Now I think recall this correctly, but I can't be certain how much of this was the actual story or my own further idea of how it should work. It was less permanent. That the bite mark was effective for a period of time, something like a year or two, but as it healed it slowly wore off. If the alpha was around the healing would be slower, and he would normally "refresh" it. And with each refreshing it got stronger and longer lasting. If it wore off it was almost as if the omega was never bitten, except he would always be slightly more sensitive to that alpha, and his heats would be slightly lighter than before. Until he was bitten by another alpha. I admit I find this idea more sensible, as it solves a lot of practical biological problems.