Hollow

Everanon May 5, 2019 6:14 am

Wow the title is spot-on, this story feels so hollow to me lol, all these cliche plots are just too much
And Why is it a very cool thing for kids to rebel and straight up disconnecting himself from their parents that it is repeatedly featured in many yaoi comics lmao can't help wondering.. it's rare to see yaoi comics where they displayed a harmonious dutiful kids-parents relationships. It's either the parents disown the gay kid, neglect, or abusive....

Responses
    Tovah May 5, 2019 7:41 am

    it's supposed to reflect society. There are a lot of yaoi where the parents are accepting but in those stories these accepting parents aren't made out to be the norm.

    maychan May 5, 2019 10:20 am

    yeas cause yaoi suppose to "glorify rape" so it won't be a cliche, right? okay whatever you say ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Everanon May 5, 2019 11:23 am
    yeas cause yaoi suppose to "glorify rape" so it won't be a cliche, right? okay whatever you say ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ maychan

    Where exactly in my comment that I hinted on that? You're delusional af, if that's what u wanna think and put words into my mouth then go ahead i don't care..i'm dropping this anyway
    The cliche for me is the character, the rich heartless playboy seme fall for a pitiful/timid guy, the uke is straight/denial at first but fall for it anyway (eventho the seme was bordering harrasing at 1st), the parents against it and disown them, same old angst... go to webcomics and u'll find many of similar plots there

    Kaito.Hat May 5, 2019 8:45 pm

    When the above commentor was talking about "glorifying rape" they meant that it's a yaoi cliche you won't find in this story, because consent is heavily discussed and rape doesn't help their relationship "blossom" (though I do agree it was a bit questionable at first)

    ButI disagree with your parent/child comment. I find in most yaoi stories there are actually 3 "extremes": parents either don't exist (i.e no conflict/no mention) are completely accepting, or do not accept them at all, and while one of those extremes is portrayed in this story (I mean is getting disowned/unaccepted that far-fetched? I don't think so. It's still very relevant to real life) I actually like how the author handles Chu's mom since it feels so eerily realistic. No one like's when discriminatory labels are attached to them because of their negative connotations in a society where we're supposedly "accepting" of all genders/races/sexuality. Everyone says they're supportive of the LGBTQ+ and few actively go out of their way to suppress those rights. However, when it comes to confronting LGBTQ+ issues behind closed doors where things are more personal and you have to deal with people you /actually/ care about, you'll find things get a little complex.

    Chu's mom is so /so/ misguided, but she genuinely loves her son and thinks she's doing the best for him. What she's doing is wrong, but she's not evil. She thinks she failed as a parent because she coddled him all his life and couldn't provide him with a strong male figure in their strictly female environment (this kind of thinking is a lot more common than you think). So what does she do? She tries to fix her wrongs so her son can be "cured". I have faith she'll eventually undergo character development: she'll see what she's doing is wrong and learn to accept her son--though not without hurdles.

    You're free to dislike this manga, I'm not here to change your mind, but calling it hollow when it goes so in-depth into so many issues is a bit crass.

    IwillShatterYourBrokenHeart May 5, 2019 9:41 pm

    Chu's not "rebelling" tho? He's an adult, not a teenager. He doesn't have to live with his mom if he doesn't want to. The whole premise of this story is Chu wanting to challenge himself so he's NOT dependent on his mom. He's so overly dependent on women because his mom babied him so much and made him believe that he could never do anything by himself. Why do you think she's so surprised when his boyfriend says he's a competent and hard worker? She even had the never to think that he was lying to her because she thought her Chu could NEVER do anything like that. Like I know she's doesn't mean to stunt his growth, but that's just how it is, and as soon as Chu figured that out, he was out of there.

    Everanon May 6, 2019 1:46 am
    When the above commentor was talking about "glorifying rape" they meant that it's a yaoi cliche you won't find in this story, because consent is heavily discussed and rape doesn't help their relationship "bloss... Kaito.Hat

    Lol no, the above commentator obviously stated that yaoi should glorify rape in order for me NOT to find it a cliche story, assuming that's what I meant by saying it's cliche..so i explained the reasons why i said it. But for me rape in yaoi is also a cliche, since it is such a redundant plot you'll find in many..if I only see in that one thing. Yet, a story made up of intricate elements and subplots and I wouldn't say a story is cliche just because of one cliche theme/subplot in it. For this one unfortunately i find it more boring as the story goes, not climaxing..
    I don't read the rest of your comment about parenthood of lgbtq people since i don't wanna go that deep. I'm just saying about the general idea of parent-children relationships in any BL, not just this one, so i won't refute any of your view on Chu's mom this or that

    maychan May 6, 2019 10:32 am
    Lol no, the above commentator obviously stated that yaoi should glorify rape in order for me NOT to find it a cliche story, assuming that's what I meant by saying it's cliche..so i explained the reasons why i s... Everanon

    no I actually meant they should not glorify rape. and has other comment said the guy already grown up adoult and not a teenger, so it can't be called rebelling.
    and by the way, the way his mother reacted is actually how MANY MOTHER'S react's to finding out their child is different/gay. believe it or not, it actually not a cliche.
    if it was a cliche, she would scream at him and force him to break up, without calling the help hot line to seek help. just the fact she called and asked what to do, cause she was lost, show it wasn't a cliche.