i do agree with you but i heard the age od consent in japan was 13 i could be wrong as i was reading this all i was thinking was that this is legal in japan ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ but hey this is yaoi
Yeah, exactly! This is just yaoi and fiction, so not like it matters, lmao. Though the age of consent in Japan have received a LOT of critisicm, so just because that's the case, I still don't think a kid can give consent to doing sexual activities with a grown adult like, what.. 20+ years older than them?? (●￣(ｴ)￣●)
While I do agree to some extent, I don’t think Haru is that old yet? He is still under 30. I still can enjoy the story (while knowing that their relationship is kind of twisted) , but I do wish they would have waited with their sexual relationship until Ren is older. It’s kind of a weird dynamic as Ren does also have an influence and power over Haru, they both are dependent on each other
yeah i only agree with her to an extent as well i understand where shes coming from but i dont think of it that way
No. Ren is 17 now and in my country, 16 is the age for sexual consent, plus they're not related. Also i feel they're both as bad each other in the retrospect of wanting things to be more than just heavy petting. Haru is rather immature for his age and Ren is maybe to mature for his, so they kinda clash. Yet its yaoi and fiction, anything kind of goes. I've read much much worse, so this is like vanilla for me.
Irl is gross and disgusting. Haru is technically grooming Ren. It's not real life though. That, and I've been reading this story since it came out (so 8 years ago). For the sake of middle-school-age me, I want to see how this ends. D:
In my country (Sweden) its ok to have sex if you're 15. I know alot of 15-17 year olds that got together with older partners, some are married with kids today. Every one is different, some 15 year olds are mature and some 25 year olds are like teenagers. As long as people are happy and everything is legal and consequential then there should be no problem.
I'm from the u.s and I know people that started having sex around 12... but the consenting age for a girl to date an older man is 17... but if the are both teens (under 17/18 ) I guess it does not matter
Yeah, exactly my thoughts! And I feel the same way. :P
Yeah, well, I'm from Denmark as well, so it's the same here. Though Haru started way before Ren was even 15, and he's technically been grooming him his whole life, lmao, if we were talking as if this is real life. I would still argue that there's a huge difference between a brotherly figure who's known you almost your whole life and their influence, being what 20+ older than you, and then some random stranger that happens to be a bit older.
They're not blood-related, but their dynamic and relationship was still build on being brothers and related. Haru is a kid having been targeted for many years for romantic interest, lmao, so his conception could be warped. I was also specifically talking about Haru's way of communicating sometimes, which can seem very manipulating and guilting into sexual and romantic activities, laying heavy weight on the fact that "you are a kid" mockingly, "I need comfort", "do this to/for me or I'll be sad" and whatever. Haru is sometimes acting like a kid/childish only to get Ren to do stuff for him, and that's very classic in real case scenarios where an adult is taking advantage of a kid that trusts them and cares for them, since the kid doesn't want to make the adult sad/mad.
ANYWAY! It's fiction. It's yaoi. It's not like I genuinely care. It was just my thoughts!
I haven't seen anyone else mention this, but I feel a little bit icky about their relationship. It's obvious that Haru has a lot of power, especially considering how much Renren respects him and looks up to him and always have. He has that kind of.. influencial psychological power.
Sometimes when they're doing stuff, Haru has been kind of guilting, acting like a spoiled child that "needs comfort" in the aspect of physical, implying that he needs to do it. There's been some lines that I find quite uncomfortable, as it seems really classic to the kind of subtle manipulation you see when one in the partnership is a lot older than the other.
Isn't he only like 15 now? Yet they've done all sorts of things one underage shouldn't be doing with a fully-grown adult. It's been borderline illegal and I just can't help but find it quite uncomfortable at times.
But heck, it's only a yaoi and fiction. I'm just surprised no one else has been talking about this!