Unpopular Opinion... (long rant, sorry)

Lol so far this story haven't turn anywhere near romance. What's your point??

where and when was this ever romantic tho

the raws and ending

I want to explain to those who don't see what I see. Yes, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I know others also see what I do.

I see patterns. There have been countless yaoi manga I have read in which this harassment and stalker behavior is rewarded. I have seen many manga where the seme is soooooo persistent and creepy but magically, the uke falls deeply in love after forgiving the seme. I have seen the look on the uke's face: he blushes sometimes. You don't blush in the circumstances the uke is in! I get a sense this is somewhat taking a romance turn or take because we are getting the view and perspective of the stalker! We are given his perspective to not only see how creepy he is; we are getting his perspective to pity him and side with him! (Who of you have given him the slightest sympathy? I unfortunately have) When you get a narrative from the stalker going "I love you so much, I've done everything in my power to get you. I don't know what more you want!" There are two sides to that! One: you get the sense that he's creepy. Two: you pity him, he is given a human side, he is not just a stalker, in fact he is just like the rest of us who often have hard crushes. The second point of view is dangerous and done on purpose. The second view is done so to make us sympathize with the stalker. We wouldn't need to sympathize with him unless he was going to develop into less of a creepy character and more to a "human and normal" one. I see patterns. I can predict that this is only one of the many stories that romanticizes bad behavior in the name of love and forgiveness.

Sorry for those who don't agree with me but I see where this might be going. I'm not going to stop reading this. But a decade of reading yaoi has not made me blind to the romanticism of bad behavior. If you can read this story without noticing these patterns, good for you. I'm only here to rant and hope that this does not follow the legacy of its predecessors. I am prepared for anything, but let me hope the story stays unique and makes a unique ending instead of following the same and nonsensical romantic take on "persistent love" aka stalking.

I know this is fictional and I don't need to take this seriously. I have no problem with the immoral events in the story. What I do have a problem with is that the ending of this really interesting story might be mediocre. I don't care about the morals of the story. I don't care there's rape or stalking in the story; that stuff doesn't faze me anymore, I've read worse. But what I do care about is the quality of the ending.

I don’t think that’s romantic that’s a sense of guilt tripping and stockholm syndrome. you have a weird way of defining “romance” it’s never been romance it just shows the stalker won and the victim left himself be broken through

unless the actual captions differ from the art and im just misinterpreting things, the end literally shows the two meeting at a flower shop at the past, where the stalkers love blooms for him at that moment. flowers r usually symbolized with love and happiness, good vibes. u can clearly see the victim accepting it as well. idk, u can think its realistic but to me, its pretty unrealistic. i dont think Stockholm syndrome works that way. what..some creepy guy literally invades every inch of your privacy, rapes you.. and the protagonist reacts : "well im a nice guy so im not really gonna report him or anything" . i think the only realistic part was that he turned depressed, but the ending doesnt really reflect that. you cant say it doesnt show SOME hint of romanticizing, especially with the flashback-- otherwise, why would it be necessary?

mmmm yes and no? I mean stockholm syndrome can be different for any victim so it’s unfair to umbrella it. I have very close friends who went through the same process the story has been going so i’m a bit offended you think your stance is something that’s accurate on this concept. it’s realistic. because it’s the head of the victim thinking “it’s all good now” the way an outsider sees the relationship is flowery since this stalker is so “loving and cares about this man” of course reality wise it isn’t happy, it shows that the stalker won through all that guilt tripping and crocodile tears the victim is entranced and feels like “this is love” it’s not romantic.


also idk maybe actually read up some experiences and cases before claiming you know stolkholm syndrome? cause a good close friend went through this and it unfortunately ended as this manhwa did. idk man open your eyes and you’ll see more perspectives

When i mean Stockholm syndrome doesnt work that way, I mean that this entire story is unrealistic.

If youve had actual friends who had someone invade every single part of their life, take pictures of them, stalk them at work, figure out their pass to their house even when they changed it, have their stalker meet up with ANOTHER relatively weird man, i sincerely hope theyre actually out of that relationship.

And ill add my final point here, excuse me for so many replies. When I say this story is unrealistic, i mean that the majority of the stalker’s actions towards the victim are almost impossible to do unless you have some extreme IQ of a brain. Are you kidding me? Did he install a camera into the wall by drilling a hole, then covering it up (?????1?1) that the victim cant see? I would get if it was a two way mirror but.. what? The stalker KNEW the passcode that was changed? If you cant tell me thats exaggerating, i dont know what is. Two) yes, i have had a friend go through an abusive relationship and continue to enable the people (theres literally two who have had stalky behavior). But the thing is, these two boys are fucking INSANE. NO sympathy has gone towards them. Other than my friend who finds it difficult to reject them, NOTHING about the boys are romanticized. If the author didnt want to romanticize the story, why the heck did they add that flower shop scene. I dont know if its a flashback or a glimpse into the future, but you can clearly see that the two look happy. Theyre blushing. They kiss. I understand where you come from: ‘well thats the point of Stockholm syndrome! You feel guilt towards the stalker and eventually fall into their captive’. But nowhere in this manga do we see another panel of him evilly smirking, or some other side. Heres something more realistic: Harada’s “color recipe”. Here, we can clearly see a VERY unhealthy relationship, where the perpetrator is shown to be a manipulative and straight up crazy person. However, after showing us his ‘pure and forgiving side’, we are then given the glimpse of another side of him. The one that is crazy and manipulative, and evil smirk, the behind the scenes of that facade, whatever! Your excuse of ‘well everything is stockholm syndrome so the author is just trying to show the realism of it’ is too generic, because you can pretty much say ANY badly written or problematic story is just ‘trying to portray a realistic side of the perpetrators view’ .

fortunately they are now thanks to support, but it’s not unrealistic these things do happen

yeah but what i’m saying is this happens so you can’t put a guarantee it’s 100% not realistic. you don’t need to write a whole weak essay fam, just open your eyes to see there’s a perspective and possibility to what this story is doing. Harada was realistic for sure, so is this one. everyone faces different situations and we shouldn’t belittle them if you gonna compare to realism. what’s unrealistic is if an author specializes and makes them bang every time to the point where the abuse seems like a fallacy and a sexual concept to them.

I wrote a lot because I wanted to make my points clear, is it really necessary to call it weak lol. OP made a paragraph to their original topic that basically sums up everything I was thinking. And by the way, they basically bang at the end. Victim gets a blowjob xd Unrealistic storytelling belittles actual scenarios.