Yea, either the uke starts weak or start strong but then whoops he has a back story and his true side is full anxiety or stuff like that because that makes the story more deep and can easily add drama.
And honestly, if the uke isn’t the stereotypical one and doesnt fall in love with the seme too easily, people usually critisize the uke. So it feels like the majority prefer a dumb uke than one that stick up for himself
Nope. If they fall in love too easily is when ukes get criticized just like you're doing. So is it okay if I criticize you for being 'dumb' enough to fall off a cliff when you were pushed? Both of them are equally not a choice. Ktbn.
Sorely disappointed how people fall back into the victim blaming status quo of real life and fiction so EASIly. Ktbn, dfba.
First of all, asshole, I was referring to his “tell me you love me” phrases and actions even though he was literally told that the seme wants to whore him out and DOESNT like him. As a fucking rape victim myself I’ll kindly ask you to fuck off since you feel the need to step to me and accuse ME of victim blaming a MANGA which is FICTION when I said NOTHING about his rape and even if I WERE to say something, I’d say that in real life he’d never want to see the seme again after the alleyway incident. I merely commented on the 2D personality and loss of effort in keeping his strong personality going. I didn’t blame him for falling in love I simply stated that I wish he’d kept his backbone because I’ve loved others and still knew my boundaries. Thanks, good night.
Yea some commentators here always use 'that's just fiction' argument whenever she/he gets nothing else to say to defend a typical rapist character.
Not sure if you meant that for me, I’m not defending the seme in any way? He’s clearly garbage.
I actually support your argument.
Well if it’s fiction set in a world where people think differently, then yes it can explain some stuff. For example, the reason why rape is such a bad thing in our society is due to the psychological damage it does to the victim. But in yaoi the said « victim » isn’t really affected by it and doesn’t even hold a grudge against the seme. Adding to that the difference in culture where : 1) the uke has to act like a « maiden » (which explains why he half ass reject the sex) and 2) a pushy seme is attractive
Then at this point, in many cases it’s really up to you to see it as rape or not.
Oh okay that’s kind of what I thought but the wording threw me off. Sorry!
Really enjoyed the ukes standoffish and independent personality the first part of the manga, sorely disappointed in how fast he fell back into the cliche easy uke.