In Asian countries females have to act coy about what they want, be shy and “lady like”. It’s not because the individual believes in that but because it’s the social norm and it’s fed to them starting in their childhood. It’s really fucking sexist but in Japan for example people do not think this is rape. It’s just a type of behavior that is internalized on both sides. That’s why there are so many tsunderes in manga/anime. (Ofc not everyone from Asia behaves that way. It’s about social standings and power positions. Which is why this is relevant for omegaverse. Since omegas are being discriminated against as well.) (I hope this kinda explains why a lot of bottoms say “no” or “stop” during sex).
While I appreciate and understand what you’re telling me, I don’t believe that he was saying ‘no’ because he was being bashful or coy. I’ve read many manga where that has happened and this case is different. I’m not sure if you could sense it, but the mood was off. By the second or third ‘no’, the ’bottom’ would have given in to their partner (or at least that’s how it would usually happen in the kind of manga you’re suggesting). But Hyesung did not give in and only continued to be dominated. I genuinely believe he did not want to have sex with Dojin. Thank you for your explanation and for taking the time to respond.
I did think something was kinda off but the author answered questions on twitter and someone asked why hyesung was crying and they answered that he was crying bc he was embarrassed. I think the main problem is lack of communication and the lack of affection on hyesung’s part. (Ofc dojin isn’t perfect but he’s trying his best.) My previous comment was not specifically a reply to yours but to a lot of other comments (on other mangas as well) that scream rape at everything. It’s just disrespectful and its harmful towards actual rape victims. Rape is a serious thing and it shouldn’t be disregarded with comments that say normal sex was rape just bc someone said “stop” or “no”. (*'ω'*)
Continuing to engage in sex when one party repeatedly says to stop or ‘no' is rape. Normal sex is where both people want what’s happening to happen. Frankly, the author should have chosen a different way or used different language to go about this situation if he were just embarrassed because there are multiple factors that come into play with ABO stories that can shift the tone and mood of an event like this. And communication needs to happen on both sides as well, blaming Hyesung alone for that is a definite reach in my opinion. While he isn’t necessarily great at giving Dojin affection, that’s a minor issue that can be worked out with time.
1. Lack of communication 2.Lack of affection on hyesung’s part. Communication is a two way street. The only thing that really bothers me with hyesung is that he doesn’t even make the effort but that’s something he can change. (He proved he can b nice with his in-laws and byul). And yeah I agree that in the western world it’s deemed as rape but not in a lot of Asian countries and ABO verse is even worse so idk. I really didn’t like that particular sec scene either. But I don’t think the author thinks that’s rape.
I think their communication could definitely use some polishing, but you’re still placing blame on Hyesung for the lack of it yet also saying communication is a team effort. You can’t say one thing then suggest the other, just to clarify. And we have our different perceptions of what rape is, even though we really shouldn't. Rape is the same everywhere, so it’s a bit disturbing to know that someone clearly being out of their comfort zone, sexually, is portrayed as being “shy” or “lady-like” when it isn’t.
Again, I think you don’t read my replies properly. I said communication is a two way street, both of them are responsible for the lack of communication. But hyesung doesn’t try at all,in general. (Dojin isn’t perfect but he’s trying and I just don’t see that yet from hyesung).I don’t have a different perception of rape than you have. I just explained to you what it’s like in Asian countries. Rape is a sexual act that is committed without the consent of the other party. And I really don’t want to argue with you because we actually do agree with each other (at least I think we do).
In the end it really is the author’s fault for making that scene seem like what it seemed like but then continue to say it was out of embarrassment. That’s why I said idk in that particular scenario but I definitely also didn’t like that scene. It was just not tastefully portrayed and she really did Dojin and Hyesung dirty with that!
I agree. Their relationship, realistically, will set back due to this. I really would like to see them flourish, but it seems we still have ways to go :(
Ok, so after re-reading the chapter, my thoughts is that Hyesung did NOT want to have sex with Dojin. Maybe it’s because of pride like some have stated and I can understand that, but consent wasn’t given for the act and that’s where , in the end, he’s shown crying. The first thought that came to me was that he was raped. Dojin did have good intentions, but he still shouldn’t have touched Hyesung when he continued to ask him to stop. To those that believe he wanted to have sex with Dojin, that may have been true in earlier chapters or even just before this one, but consent needed to be given in that EXACT moment. Plus, as an omega, his body will more than likely immediately respond to his Alpha and especially with his pheromones all over he place. I don’t like what took place this installment, but we’ll find out what actually happened next chapter & I hope they can thoroughly discuss this.