ı am sorry but although seme is a physco uke also is wrong just because u are lonely and ...

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You can't sympathies with the uke cause you haven't gone through what he has nor you have experience smth similar.

Well they were best friends. I’m sure he loved and cared for Jihyun, but not in a romantic way. It was a little selfish on Chinwoo’s end for wanting to stay close as friends.

With that said Chinwoo does not owe Jihyun anything. Just because Jinyun is possessive and obsessive over Chinwoo, he is not entitled to anything. He certainly doesn’t have the right to go around and beat up everyone who’s friendly with Chinwoo either.

Also Chinwoo has rejected him the in past and present. He said no, and not in a playing hard to get kind of way where he’s also interested, but in a he’s scare shitless of Jinyun kind of way to the point of trembling in fear.

nope ı do undertsand his situtation but ı just don't find his behaviour right ı think he just choose the easy way to fell at ease

well u definitely right ı am just saying ı don't think uke is as innocent as everyone talk about he is also wrong and he has to admit it then he can face with the seme

napıyım ya herkes beyaz kafalı uke için göz yaşı döküyor abi adam semeyi kullanmış işte hiç de masum değil valla tamam seme de psikopat ama yine uke de sütten çıkmış ak kaşık değil yani napıyım beğenmesinler doğru söyleyeni dokuz köyden kovarlar :D

Katılıyorum aynı görüşte olduğum birini bulacağımı düşünmezdim ve türk olucağını. Piskopat olsada çok seviyo ve vazgeçmiyo öbür seme de kötü değil ama uke masum değil

aynen öbür semeye lafım yok zaten sadece ukeyi sevmedim ezik işte kararsız duruşuyla semeyi psikopat etmiş hiç sevmem ezikleri o yüzden de yoneda kou sensei favorimdir ukeleri hep güçlüdür

Are you seriously blaming the uke for something as small as that? When the seme has sexually and physically abused the uke? Wow, you seem really insensitive. The uke has a right to ignore the seme's feelings, especially when he feels uncomfortable about them.

You should never be held accountable for that type of shit. Chiwoo shouldnt have to satisfy Jihyun's need for an answer at all. Its kinda shitty because it can be leading on, but that very literally nothing to the situation. As someone said before, Chiwoo has and still does shut Jihyun down very seriously; however, Jihyun doesnt listen.

I get that you understand Jihyun is an absolute fucking cunt, so I wont go into that can of worms. But the victim (Chiwoo/the uke) shouldnt be blamed at all. Him not giving Jihyun an answer should not be an excuse for Jihyun to abuse/harrass/exploit/manipulate Chiwoo and those around him. I also feel that if Chiwoo had been straight up with Jihyun, the same things wouldve happened but amplified: as you can see, Jihyun cant handle rejection. Even now as Jihyun is told to leave Chiwoo and his friend alone, he wont leave our poor uke alone. Nothing would change significantly by telling the truth straight.

Chiwoo is innocent. if he is guilty, its only about 0.000000000001% of guiltiness on his part. NOTHING justifies abuse, but I get that it was shitty as a friend to do that to Jihyun.

U are not understanding me ı am not saying he is right about the rape or violent behaviour ı am just saying uke is one of the reason for the seme's bullshit cause just closing ur eyes for the things u don't want to admit doesnt make u innocent ı mean nobody is innocent in this story but gray hair seme

I will tell u the same thing like ı said ı am not trying to make seme innocent ı just dont like the idea of angel uke no matter what u say in the past uke never clear about his rejection and ı think he is selfish but this isn't make the seme right

The uke will never be a reason for how the seme acts. People do not have to return feelings to others, especially to those who are very abusive.

ı am done this the last time ı am explaining myself ı am not talking about the rejection uke clearly used seme's feelings for his own satisfection so ı think this was the wrong ofc everybody can reject who ever they want but we never read a definite rejection from uke's mouth until the rape thing on the contrary his inner voice accepted he used seme's feelings for his selfishness ı have never used my friends' feelings just because ı am shy or not to loose them and ı will never do ı think this is disgusting and wrong even if it hurts ı will always tell them the bitter truth even if we have to be apart that's my manners ofc

You're putting all your focus onto blaming the uke for such a little thing as this. Its not bad that the uke doesn't want to ever know of the seme's feelings because then that would make things very awkward for them both. I get why the uke is acting the way he is. Its very hard to let go of a toxic person from your life because they've been the only thing you've ever known. Nowhere does it show the uke using the seme's feelings for his own "satisfaction". He literally had nothing to gain from that. You're repeating the same thing to everyone but you aren't giving any facts or examples to back that up. Its a different situation with you telling your friends something bluntly and the uke's decision on what he should do with a toxic person that is in his life's feelings. You cannot just look at this from the perspective of the seme's, but also the uke's because think of how hard it is for him.

You clearly didnt read what I said. I said that ik youre not defending seme, but the idea of demonizing the uke a bit for not wanting to deal with a toxic and insabe person's feelings is not great. It is a form of victim blaming. Like if a girl doesnt properly reject a guy that likes her, is that justificationfor him stalking and harming her? No, it isnt.

Even if uke did properly reject, once again, IT WOULDNT WORK. Kyujin is selfish and wont let go of what he thinks they had.

Lastly, yes uke isnt totally innocent: the fact he didnt give a proper rejection is assholeish. But hes human, and makes this tiny mistake that launches him into a world of toxicity and abuse. Kyujin is also human, but he is the sole problem which is why ppl demonize him. Bby boy needs severe help.