Confused.

Zarathustra January 4, 2020 4:32 pm

So there is something that keeps bothering me a bit -- more like confusing me.
Back in chapter 21 ( specifically page 7) when Seungho is having sex with a drunk Nakyum who think he is having sex with InHun, we have this bit of chat after they have sex and are embracing:

Seungho: "You used to frail and pull away with all your might when I grabbed you but the front"
Nakyum: " I do not dislke it".

I mean, when I read it I had the impression that Seungho was referring to the time he grabbed Nakyum and jerked him off ... what else is he talking about? In English, we have the expression 'you used to' to refer things that happened in an unspecified past so he couldn't be referring to the sex now. He is comparing Nakyum resistance to his touching before and his pleasure now ...
but what confuses me is that Nakyum answers as if he knows what Seungho is referring to. Inhun never grabbed him by the front so how is he answering to the fact that he doesn't dislike when Seungho grabbing his dick in the past?
Is this mistranslation?
The dialogue just sounds a bit odd unless we are meant to think that somehow in between the delirium or at least in some level, Nakyum was aware that he was talking to Seungho, not InHun.

Responses
    Lucy In The Sky January 4, 2020 4:42 pm

    Could it be? Nakyum is secretly very, very naughty?!

    xMorfium January 4, 2020 6:37 pm

    Na was obviously attracted to Yoon, he even dreamt of him and jerked off to him.

    1evis1ittlea$$hole January 4, 2020 7:18 pm

    If he did he wouldn't have been so shook when he realized it was Yoon. He literally snapped on Yoon and had a whole episode about it after he realized it happened. He bitched Yoon afterwards which is why Yoon was about to kill Inshit in the first place

    Zarathustra January 4, 2020 7:42 pm
    If he did he wouldn't have been so shook when he realized it was Yoon. He literally snapped on Yoon and had a whole episode about it after he realized it happened. He bitched Yoon afterwards which is why Yoon w... 1evis1ittlea$$hole

    Yes, but thus my confusion. How's that exchange makes sense?
    Because the way it is, it's clear Seungho was referring to the episode where he grabbed Nakyum's boner and jerked him off a few chapters before.... and Nakyum replied not with surprise or confusion about what he was talking about... he said he didn't dislike it.
    It doesn't make sense for Nakyum to be replying about Inhun had touched him before ( and he not disliking it) because InHun never grabbed him.
    How other readers understand this exchange? What Seungho was talking about? And most important, what Nakyum was replying to?

    Zarathustra January 4, 2020 7:52 pm
    Na was obviously attracted to Yoon, he even dreamt of him and jerked off to him. xMorfium

    I agree with that. We got sidetracked when the 'violent' rape happened and the story took another turn . However, there were several scenes where the author clearly showed Nakyum was being swept by the erotic atmosphere of the environment and his master. Not saying he was romantically falling for Seungho but he was definitely attracted by him on a sexual level. It makes sense after all because Nakyum is sexually repressed, virgin and on top of it, his unrequited romantic feelings are on a man who has taught him that 'sodomites' are disgusting. Seungho is unapologetic in his sexual desires, has power and it is, after all, handsome. Nakyum in his confusion was in some level being seduced by all this lust. The fact that Seungho came like a wrecking ball into this budding feeling just complicated things but the fact remains that Nakyum sexual awakening was happening before that and Seungho was the trigger.

    1evis1ittlea$$hole January 4, 2020 7:56 pm
    Yes, but thus my confusion. How's that exchange makes sense? Because the way it is, it's clear Seungho was referring to the episode where he grabbed Nakyum's boner and jerked him off a few chapters before....... Zarathustra

    "Inhun never grabbed him" Well.........unfortunately we don't know that. I want to throw up thinking of it but how do we know he never molested him or something? He is a homophobic prick but that don't mean he wouldn't do that. And it is a little suspis that Nakyum is so romantically detached to him....almost dependent on him to an unhealthy degree. It's a little beyond Teacher-Student in some ways.

    Also, since when did blackout drunks ever make sense? They make as much sense as ppl talking in their sleep since they're only partially conscious. He probably wasn't really even listening like that. I mean he was so out of it he was seeing things lol

    1evis1ittlea$$hole January 4, 2020 7:56 pm
    "Inhun never grabbed him" Well.........unfortunately we don't know that. I want to throw up thinking of it but how do we know he never molested him or something? He is a homophobic prick but that don't mean he ... 1evis1ittlea$$hole

    *ATTACHED sorry XD

    Zarathustra January 4, 2020 9:24 pm
    "Inhun never grabbed him" Well.........unfortunately we don't know that. I want to throw up thinking of it but how do we know he never molested him or something? He is a homophobic prick but that don't mean he ... 1evis1ittlea$$hole

    Well, see, I can only go by what the story shows me and again, that's why the scene confused me.
    You have a point that one possible explanation is that Nakyum was revealing in his drunk stupor that Inhun also molested him in the past. However, it is not unreasonable to doubt that based on the character Inhun that we see. He doesn't seem to have any inclination to touch Nakyum sexually or have much familiarity with him, so my conclusion that he was not talking about Inhun.
    Please, notice that I am not arguing that Nakyum knew he was talking to Seungho. I am asking is what other readers understood of that dialogue. If it was a mistranslation, if Nakyum had a moment of lucid perception where he associated the question to the right person. You last paragraph seems to indicate you think like this too: that Nakyum may be 'partially' conscious.
    Notice that Nakyum gave a direct answer: "I don't dislike it" so it sounds clear that he did listened and understood what the other person said and the answer 'made sense' to the question.
    Thank you for your input but I wished to know if anyone had actually understood the exchange. You sound just as confused as I am.

    Zarathustra January 4, 2020 9:38 pm
    Could it be? Nakyum is secretly very, very naughty?! Lucy In The Sky

    I think Nakyum is definitely sexually repressed and would never admit that he was sexually aroused by the show of promiscuity of Seungho.
    If we had not got a dark turn where Seungho forced the situation instead of slowly seducing him with flirting we would have seen Nakyum reveal himself. Now any feeling of desire he had for Seungho got mixed with hate and rejection.
    It would be interesting though if that scene meant that Nakyum had a second of realization that he was with Seungho.

    Lucy In The Sky January 5, 2020 6:47 am
    I think Nakyum is definitely sexually repressed and would never admit that he was sexually aroused by the show of promiscuity of Seungho. If we had not got a dark turn where Seungho forced the situation instea... Zarathustra

    Agreed!