To the uploader Hikari

ThingOfEvil February 2, 2020 8:57 pm

My dear friend.
Do not be triggered by what I'm gonna say. Read and understand it like reasonable adult, don't make a fuss over literally nothing, okay?
Look, I've read your comment yesterday and saw your additional update and the message within, today.

First,nobody has been "rude" to you. Maybe harshly honest, but certainly not rude. Only two people said
1) that they hated your reaction
I'm gonna be "harshly Frank" as well, they were absolutely right
2) that you are not so important that we readers will miss you, and that they hate people claiming the ownership of a book that they illegally share on this platform
They were also right.

Yesterday, somebody that is obviously not used to upload here, uploaded the chapter 18 of this book. They CAN do it, they have the RIGHT as much as you to do it.


EDIT:
I'd like to correct myself here: actually none of you have the right to upload here, it is illegal but well, you certainly got what I meant.

Like this person said, they just bought the chapter and wanted to share it with all of us, there was absolutely zero ill intention and there was zero reason for you to be so upset. If anything, they took a load off your shoulders.
But you still made a fuss and said you'd stop updating as if they basically stole something from you...
There are hundreds, most likely thousands of uploaders on mangago, and all of you do it out of good will. It's not your job, and you aren't forced to do it, none of the books shared here belong to us.

Also, you're gonna find me rude certainly but I'll say it anyways:
You're additional update looked totally like a show off, like "look, my updates are way better and you're gonna regret me! Muahahah!"

Indeed your crops are good and clean, we won't deny it. But you chose to spend time doing it, which we're grateful for, but we penniless beggars will accept whatever trash thrown down our throat here because otherwise, we couldn't read any of these stories. Some will always complain, ignore these ungrateful greedy bitches, they like it, that's all.

If you hate uploading, just don't. We will not resent you.
If you don't want to share, then don't. You bought it with your own money, you're free to do whatever the fuck you want with it.
If it bothers you to waste your time making clean updates when we end up reading upside down badly cropped chapters updated by someone else, don't do it. We will not blame you.

But don't ask for reconnaissance here either, this is not how it works. We're grateful for your generosity, but we don't owe you anything.
If you stop updating, there will be someone else, or it will be incomplete for ever, that happens all the time.

So in the end, what I wanted to say is that you did react too harshly. They called you a dramaqueen not to be disrespectful, but because it was too much. They said nobody will miss you because none of us down here is irreplaceable, that's how life works.
I know it sucks but that's how it is.

We all thank you for your clean updates up till now and we wish you the best, though we won't build a statue made off cookies for you.
We are neither your enemies, nor your worshippers.

Have a nice day my friend, I hope I conveyed my feelings properly here and that you won't take it the wrong way.

Responses
    Jayachem February 2, 2020 8:28 pm

    I think the original uploader's main concern was not bc they wanted sole 'ownership' and control over the comic, but wanted to upload it according to a schedule as to encourage readers to read in Tappytoons or something like that? That way, it would support the original author? Correct me if I'm wrong though.

    ThingOfEvil February 2, 2020 8:40 pm
    I think the original uploader's main concern was not bc they wanted sole 'ownership' and control over the comic, but wanted to upload it according to a schedule as to encourage readers to read in Tappytoons or ... Jayachem

    Oh I perfectly understand this, but Hikari's reaction was still very disproportionned and probably clumsily expressed.
    That way of uploading by itself makes me think highly of the uploader so I want to believe Hikari just had a very bad day yesterday and reacted in the spur of the moment, lashing out their anger on whatever. That's why I didn'y say anything yesterday.

    The uploader surprise from yesterday may also be someone who buys every chapter, connected on mangago and coincidentally noticed this very chapter had not been updated thus shared it here, and from her credit page, she obviously didn't have any bad intention.

    But whatever it was, all this drama was very unnecessary, they are both on instagram and I keep thinking a message could have solved everything, there was no need for a declaration of war...

    hikari February 2, 2020 11:11 pm

    You've only seen, but no the dms tho? Uploaders go against copyright laws just to share it here for free. In exchange of nothing but only patience to wait for it 1-2 week after the update was released. And this is not the first I've been saying to wait for a week, that if someone else would upload I would stop. But what do i get? A lot of people Dmed me already with my decisions when I've been saying it repeatedly.

    ThingOfEvil February 3, 2020 2:47 am
    You've only seen, but no the dms tho? Uploaders go against copyright laws just to share it here for free. In exchange of nothing but only patience to wait for it 1-2 week after the update was released. And this... hikari

    Dear of course we know nothing about the DM, they're private; all we could see from here was you throwing a tantrum at somebody who very innocently updated this chapter... And like I said, you will just do whatever the fuck you want and none of us have anything to say against this.

    Your money, your chapter, you do it your way.

    Whatever you decide, we're still thankful for what you've done so far and if you don't want to do it anymore, so be it.
    But all this drama is going too far, there was no harm since the beginning and I still think you reacted too strongly. Your words were harsh, maybe it wasn't the right time but still, it was obvious that some people would take it to heart, and even then they weren't rude (after your comment I mean) probably more confused and disappointed.

    Just do what you want, I'll say it again we won't blame you and those who will can just go buy a physical copy of the book, roll it up and shove it up their ass for all we care :)

    2seung February 3, 2020 5:56 am
    Oh I perfectly understand this, but Hikari's reaction was still very disproportionned and probably clumsily expressed. That way of uploading by itself makes me think highly of the uploader so I want to believe ... ThingOfEvil

    Just read it on the official site and stop leeching if you want to complain so much. This is like a thief complaining about how unfair another thief is LOL

    ThingOfEvil February 3, 2020 10:24 am
    Just read it on the official site and stop leeching if you want to complain so much. This is like a thief complaining about how unfair another thief is LOL 2seung

    The fuck are you talking about now. ರ_ರ

    Invinciblebu February 4, 2020 11:47 am
    The fuck are you talking about now. ರ_ರ ThingOfEvil

    Honestly there should be a policy in mangago that ur only allowed to post or upload when the manhwa or manhua is completed . I mean I personally have no issues with it.im also just leeching off and tbvh if I had the money and did buy it I would not share here lol ... People here can be pretty negative . I mean this is the problem in every comic . Everyone is fighting over these issues . This was a deserted website just 2 3 years back. So it was much easily and didn't have any impact . Now even if people have the money they would still come here to read.. Japanese manga are no big issue coz they make money out of physical copies and doesn't rely on websites apps etc but these korean or Chinese manhwa are not the same .so it's just too unfair ... For the author .. obviously now I'd get a cmnt saying why do u read them here then ... ""I have no money _"

    Invinciblebu February 4, 2020 11:50 am
    Honestly there should be a policy in mangago that ur only allowed to post or upload when the manhwa or manhua is completed . I mean I personally have no issues with it.im also just leeching off and tbvh if I ha... Invinciblebu

    But if u guys do have money then please stop reading here for free and creating this mess. There is only one solution for these problems .. and that is that we wait for the manhwas to be completed and then upload them ..lol which is not very possible.but we can try uk. Then nobody has to feel bad and in this way alot of people would be forced to spend their money and won't be dependent towards this site..

    ThingOfEvil February 4, 2020 1:30 pm
    Honestly there should be a policy in mangago that ur only allowed to post or upload when the manhwa or manhua is completed . I mean I personally have no issues with it.im also just leeching off and tbvh if I ha... Invinciblebu

    Look I'm gonna repeat the same I said to Hikari: their money, their book their way.
    People sharing books here do it on their own will, nobody would resent them if they didn't share.
    At best
    -for me at least, I live in France and BL is our area 51-
    I would never hear of the story thus support nobody, my tappytoon, lezhin , renta , and pixiv account would simply not exist,
    At worst I'd just steal glances at a few pages on social medias but not enough to pick my interest.
    That's all there is to it.
    And I still don't understand what the bloody fuck 2seung meant with that mysterious off topic reply.

    Invinciblebu February 4, 2020 3:00 pm
    Look I'm gonna repeat the same I said to Hikari: their money, their book their way.People sharing books here do it on their own will, nobody would resent them if they didn't share. At best-for me at least, I li... ThingOfEvil

    I agree with u and even I don’t have a problem with people uploading here. All I meant to say was that the way that they are doing this is wrong tho.. it’s creating more and more fights. One thing I don’t agreee with u is that someone else can update whenever they want .. to me it just looks like they are hungry for attention or Instagram . For lord sake stop acting like ur doing us a favour .... what’s the point of screenshoting your ig. ? This goes to everyone who does that , I’m not taking back anything . There’s always a topic of manners. What I want to say is that a certain person is doing some sort of job and u know that this person will upload any time soon so what is the point of someone else to interfere and upload the chapter like what? Just try to think would. A sane person with common sense ever try that ,Why would u go out of ur way to upload a chapter when u know someone’s already doing it? A heads up would have been even good out of common sense and ethics but idk why everyone seems to neglect that? As u said before that they can do it out of free will but it makes sense if the previous uploaded has dropped it no?
    See the problem I have with people sharing their Ig is that WE ALL ARE HERE TO READ OKAY? If uploaders want followers then like a decent person they can write on comments section .. even the author doesn’t write their ig all the time then what gives a translator a right to edit the pages and add some screenshot or memes like ?? We are reading and feeling emotions of every sort and then at last please follow me on Instagram blah blah .. I am talking about every single uploaded ... idk why everyone is following the same pattern . Then they say that they just wanted to share with everyone haha alright sure .

    ThingOfEvil February 4, 2020 3:26 pm
    I agree with u and even I don’t have a problem with people uploading here. All I meant to say was that the way that they are doing this is wrong tho.. it’s creating more and more fights. One thing I don’t... Invinciblebu

    Ahhhh this I can't tell either. I don't even have an Instagram account to begin with but I totally join you on the matter of taking credit on somebody else's work, even at a humble lvl.
    And this is probably why I don't give a flying fuck about who updates what when it's done normally.
    I mean, do you read painter of the night?
    2 weeks ago, a bloody troll updated, instead of a new chapter, some crappy crops picked up on Facebook from random chapters and even added a fruit salad on some sex scene panels. And you know what? Some people were happy with that and bashed the people who were complaining in the comments even though that "update" was so obviously a troll, and a sad one at that.
    In that case I can understand that a real uploader is pissed off.
    But here I really think there was no harm meant. Also I don't really like the idea of the uploaders being pressured to "take responsibility" just because they started to upload something.

    Invinciblebu February 4, 2020 5:59 pm
    Ahhhh this I can't tell either. I don't even have an Instagram account to begin with but I totally join you on the matter of taking credit on somebody else's work, even at a humble lvl.And this is probably why ... ThingOfEvil

    It’s just that when someone picks up a certain manhwa out of no where they do it for Instagram followers and I’ve seen a lot of those who just post one chapter. I know why people might be upset with Hikari but I don’t think that the other party Is not to be blamed..if Hikari wants to leave uploading then okay the other person can pick it up but I highly doubt that they will upload after one chapter looking at how the advertisement is going on lol .. I totally understand ur point tho. I’m just speaking neutral not just about Hikari and that other uploader but u have. A point

    ThingOfEvil February 5, 2020 1:10 am
    It’s just that when someone picks up a certain manhwa out of no where they do it for Instagram followers and I’ve seen a lot of those who just post one chapter. I know why people might be upset with Hikari ... Invinciblebu

    I don't really think there's a reason to be upset with Hikari, they did a great job up till now and it's totally up to them to continue or not.
    But I was troubled at how Hikari was angry just a few minutes after the chapter was uploaded, but well... I'm not an uploader so I can't think or speak in their stead.
    There was a few books for which I thought of uploading but Hikari is not a unique case and the readers are basically royal assholes most of the time, so I never dared.
    I support a few authors at my humble level and keep reading here because it's convenient.