any takers on this theory???

This theory is cool, really but I highly doubt it to be true.
spoil ( I am gonna talk about the theory a little so yeah )







Even if Road is actually Katerina, I don't think she is Sheril and Tyki 's mother. Sheril and Tyki are 34 and 27, Katerina was hurt by Mana before Nea's death so more than 35 tears ago obviously and if she did survive and created Road from her dream, after that accident I doubt she wouldn't be in any condition to have children.
From Nea's reaction when he faced Tyki and with what he said to him, seems like Nea know why Tyki looks like him.
Also, it may be just me but I don't think pastAllen was bookman apprentice. First I think pastAllen and Allen do look similar, if they looked completly different then Nea would of said so, he would have wondered if he reincarned in the wrong body. He probably know from Tim that Allen got his name from Mana, so he couldn't have been sure it was him just by his name. Allen have no memories of Nea and got younger witch Nea has no idea of why or how. But instead of wondering if he reincarned in some random kid by mistake, he immediatly knew it was Allen. So to me it makes sense that Allen look not exactly but at least similar to his past self.
And if he does how come Wisely, Road or bookman didnt reconize him. And even if they didn't look similar, how come bookman never thought Allen to be a little suspicious. He have the same name as your past apprentice, he have some caracter traits similar to his, he is Cross's diciple ( witch is suspicious in itself ) and you learn later on that he is the reincarnation of the 14th who was very close to this past apprentice of yours. Would't you think it's weird ?

Also this is just a theory of my own but I don't think Allen is human. Everyone seems to have forgotten that Allen can't be analyzed. The congregation have no proof of Allen being a human, they just let him pass thanks to Cross. Komui said that only human can be cursed but all of them know barely anything about curses. Even bookman was surprised that it could heal itself, and it took a lot of time to the earl to take actual measures against it. Curses are probably very rare people only have a vague idea of what it is.
It seems as well that Wisely, Road and the apocryphos have trouble to reach Allen witch is weird ( Road said she can't connect with his dream, Wisely has trouble to see things about Nea and Allen, and the apocryphos couldn't access Allen's memories when he tried to fuse with him ).
Allen got killed. I know that he "survive" thanks to his innocence or thanks to his dream at that time but still weird. And we know now that he got younger and all.

The only proof we have is that he is a noah and noah are all humans, but then again the 14th is kinda an exeption among them. Plus seems like Nea has some troubles in Allen's body, he's surprised that he can't sense other presences at all and said, I think 2-3 times that he probably isn't used to this body yet. And I realised that every times Nea is taking over Allen the black matter and the noah's transformation immediatly stop. Seriously do you recall seing Neah ( possessing Allen ) with dark skin ? Isn't it supposedly the other way around ?
Oh... also, I almost forgot, Allen glitches.
Like, remember in the begining of the alma ark when Allen take over Nea and headbutt the earl, he glitched for a moment. And I think he is the only caracter in all d gray man that glitch.

So like I wrote that it's late and I'm french so I probably made a lot of mistakes in my text. Sorry, please have mercy.
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well, you are entitled to your own opinion I just like hearing other people's thoughts on the theory because to me a lot of things just made sense.

(And your English was great)

I’m just gonna add a quick lil thing...[I’m on my phone so I apologize ahead of time for any mistakes] I think the theory is really interesting and would be cool...but I was surprised that the comment Master Zu said wasn’t brought up. In case you might not remember in Ch. 213, page 16 he says “I had wanted to save you, but instead, I turned you into ‘ the fourteenth’-“ he gets cut off by Lvellie but I think this scene holds a HUGE key in figuring out what happened with ‘Past Allen’. Zu is well past 100 years old so we do know he was alive during all of that drama with Mana and Nea 35 years ago so it would make sense that he could’ve been involved a bit. Zu’s abilities were all based on healing so what if by chance he had tried to heal ‘Past Allen’? Maybe when he used his powers it had caused ‘Past Allen’ to age backwards or maybe Zu had resurrected ‘Past Allen’ from a mortally fatal wound and by sharing some of his life he aged ‘Past Allen’ back? I mean there’s no proof he could do this but there’s also no proof he can’t but this does bring up the question why Link didn’t age back when Zu had brought him back from such a fatal injury. Well on Page 14 of ch. 213 he does say this is the last life he can give and throughout the times Zu has used his powers he has said they’ve been getting weaker. This is probably because of his old age and since he doesn’t have much life force left he could only give Link a bit, enough to heal him but not enough to age him backwards if needed. Haha...maybe the reason why he is so weak is from aging ‘Past Allen’ back from such a grave wound.

Of course you can always link the quote back to ‘Present Allen’ and the injury Zu healed in ch. 196, page 26, but Zu didn’t necessarily save him. Allen wasn’t mortally wounded and if he really needed to he could’ve still fought using Crown Clown to manipulate his body [ ch. 152 page 7] like when he fought a level 4 Akuma for the first time. So Zu could’ve been talking about ‘Present Allen’ but whether he healed Allen or not in ch. 196 Allen would’ve still fought in that battle and have awakened as the 14th regardless of Zu’s intervention. Zu shouldn’t feel responsible for ‘Present Allen’ becoming the 14th. Buuuut...if Zu healed ‘Past Allen’, giving some of his life to him so ‘Past Allen’ could live longer, long enough to receive Nea’s memories and hold onto them, Zu could feel responsible.

Which ever idea you choose I feel like it’s based on what Zu’s “save you” is based off of. In ‘Present Allen’s’ case I feel like it’s not really a save but more like helped, but if it’s in terms of ‘Past Allen’ getting mortally wounded, it makes a bit more sense. Another factor would be exactly what Zu’s abilities are capable of that have not really been explored. We know he uses his life force to heal, but could he give his life force to someone else and age them back? But yeah...that’s just a Theory and a thought that crossed my mind. Too bad Zu is dead.

You're right ! The first time I read this chapter I thought he said "I turned you into the fourteenth's ... " and got cut, so I assumed he talked about Link and what Lvellie tasked him to. And then I forgot, but now that I am re-reading it, it is kinda suspiscious.

（/TTДTT)/ Ahhhhhrg ! I am not sure of anything anymore ...

I’m loving all these theories on here and im dying to find out what the truth is. I did notice that no one mentions the heart of the innocence anymore. Is it not important at all? Something onky the order holds dear or has faith in?

Well said.